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Do you think a school should give 11 yr old's birth control without parental consent?

  1. Yes, the school shouldn't have to notify parents.

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  2. No, a parent's rights over their child comes first.

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  1. Real World

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    Do you think a school should give 11 year old's birth control without parental consent?

    I think you all know where I stand on this.
     
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    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    Not a very good pollster are you?

    Try this:

    Poll: Do you think that schools should force feed 11 year olds Birth Control pills and take away the rights of all parents while encouraging underage sex?

    I think you might sway a few more people that way.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    Of course they shouldn't. It's assanine. They also shouldn't get into a million other things that they do. I hate having to re-educate my kids at home from all the hogwash they hear. No, kids, driving home is not causing the water levels to rise. Now what do you want for dinner ?
     
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    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    It's those damn liberal scientists again!
     
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    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    I believe in the role of parents, but also believe that there are somethings that parents cannot deal with or do not deal with very well, also am concerned as to a high rate of teen pregnancy.. so am mixed, but after long thought (10 sceonds) as a parent and grandparent have to come down on the side of parental rights.
     
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    #12 Jersey

    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    Why is this still being discussed? Eleven year olds... birth control... hmmm...

    This is the stupidest argument I have seen in a while. What is going on with this country :O
     
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    Hope you've got some rum on that island Wildo. :D
     
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    #75 Jersey

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    No. Only a parent should be allowed to approve medications for a minor. Abortions for a pregnant 11 year-old should be allowed everywhere for free, too.
     
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    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    The child should be protected from abusive parents. If the child is from a household where communication and trust have broken down, then health professionals should be able to act in the child's behalf without notifying the parents. An obvious example is, Should the child who refuses to prosecute are father for sexual abuse need her father's permission to be be on the pill or to have an abortion? In cases where there's no suspicion of abuse, medical professionals should do all they can to persuade the child to include his/her parents in the decision making.
     
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    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    Sounds nice, but in reality this will probably never work, human beings have inclinations on what kids should do and have biases, to allow decision makers to make run of the mill medical decisions for children defies the whole concept of parenting. In the case of abuse there is a role for the state and legal systems.. but not for contraceptive without parental authorization.
     
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    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    99%, no 99.99% of the people involved in schools, are honest professionals who are not going to give out drugs willy-nilly and are not going to ignore the parents unless it's really called for. The chances of the system protecting an abused kid are greater than the system harming that kid. Everyone in this forum has had or interacted with lots of teachers, guidance counselors, health care workers, and others. How often has it happened that one of them has abused his or her authority? Most of them are cautious, deliberate, and thoughtful, and working within the confines of established psychological and medical theory.

    If the vote was Should the school system give every kid a care package once a week that includes condoms, birth control pills, and sex manuals, that's one thing. But, the assumption is that a school system that resorts to these measures has a process in place so that these measured are used only when deemed necessary.
     
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    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    I think the determination of when such measures are necessary, is best kept in the hands of the kid's actual parents. Not some stranger, school, or government entity. If you believe the kid might need them, or anything, contact the parent, and talk to them about it.
     
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    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    I think in most cases it's like that. But, who are the kids who are having sex at 11? I think in some cases, those kids are from abusive homes and it may not be in the child's interest to contact the parents. Is it that hard to imagine a parent seriously beating up a child for having sex or smoking dope or whatever? Sad to say, but the estimates of child abuse are very high, and much of that abuse is at the hands of parents. Experts need to have some right to apply professional judgment.
     
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    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    You people are extremely scary individuals. Experts....:rolleyes:
     
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    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    So, what do we do about kids who say they are abused or who psychologists suspect are abused by their parents? As the parents if the kids are telling the truth? Now that's scary.
     
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    #12 Jersey

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    I'm scared that an eleven year old might hit on me now :help:


    I swear officer, she had birth control... she wears slutty things on her myspace and takes pictures of her boobs... she consented and came to me...:bricks:
     
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    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    I see, so since there might be an outside chance that some 11 year old is being abused somewhere, we're going to institute a policy, through the government run monopoly that is the public school system, by which we strip ALL parents of their rights over their children. Now that's some great logic. I'm just guessing that those same principles would be unilatterally accepted by your ilk when applied to Homeland Security, ICE, and the Police Department.

    If you suspect that there is abuse, you call the police, or DSS, and have them take care of it.
     
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    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    Good, we don't disagree. We want qualified professionals to deal with the abused child, and we will trust them (by and large) to take care of the matter. So, what are you arguing with me about? With childcare, as well as security, we need to have intelligent laws on the books and intelligent people to carry out those laws. In general, that's how things work. Most cops are honest, hardworking people. Same with most teachers. Same with most everything. I would be opposed to a law that requires teachers to give girls the pill anytime they want it, but I would support a law that allows qualified people (such as psychologists and nurses) to give an individual girl the pill on a case by case basis.
     
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    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    So where exactly did we agree?
     
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    Re: Do you think a school should give 11 year old birth control without parental cons

    You said let the police and DSS deal with it. So, I assume you are saying that in some cases qualified professionals have the right to decide whether or not the parents should be notified.
     

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