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Do We Really Have a Democratic Process in the Presidential Elections?

Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by IcyPatriot, Aug 21, 2008.

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Is our process truly democratic in electing POTUS?

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  2. No

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  3. Other - Please Explain

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  1. IcyPatriot

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    #87 Jersey

    We really shouldn't brag that we are this great democratic nation.
    In reality, we are not truly a "Democratic Society" in the strict sense of the word.

    http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1538


    http://usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/whatsdem/whatdm2.htm
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  2. STFarmy

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    I voted other because the answer's kind of yes and no. It's based on democratic values, but it's within a republican system. It's not totally yes or no. The founders were petrified of pure democracy, as have been most philosophers/political theorists historically. But they recognized the need to give the people some measure of power. This is why our system is a hybrid of the republicanism and democracy.

    Yay Federalist Papers!
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    No, and that's by design. It's the rhetoric of the day that confuses this.
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    Ther term "democracy" today coming from Washington, means "Do what we do or at least do what we need you to do".
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    #87 Jersey

    Great answer ... in one way it protects us from being overthrown but unfortunately it lease us with a 2-party system where the parties are more closely aligned than they lead us to believe.
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    It doesn't have to necessarily leave us with the two-party system, that's just entrenched. And the one thing these two parties will ALWAYS fight shoulder-to-shoulder on is to protect their hegemony of this system.
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    Two-party myth is a joke. There is a good reason why there has never been traction for a third party in America: They would actually be running up against what is really a ruling single party. They are effectively banned from participation because the Republicrats have rigged the system by buying control of the Fourth Estate and delivering to their real masters, the corporations of America who finance their careers and fringe benefits.

    The term "democracy" is a joke to those in power - not just here but nearly everywhere. Whenever another democratic country votes for someone who does not represent what we want them to, we discount their process and label their leaders "terrorists" or "anti-American socialists".
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    #24 Jersey

    If enough people voted (L) then they would be in the debates the next time. I usually vote (L) but you can't have everyone at the debates. The (L)s and (G)s barely get any votes. Quit crying about throwing away your vote (your vote as an entity isn't going to make the difference) and vote for who you like the best. Voting (L) isn't throwing away your vote if enough people do it that they're taken seriously down the road.
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    One or the other will be getting mine this year!
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    so do people vote for the candidate or the party?
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    #24 Jersey

    I guess it depends on the person. I vote for the Republican if I like him, if not I vote Libertarian as I'm probably 75% (R), 20% (L) and 5% (D). Those with closer party splits probably vote more for the candidate.
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    More so for the party these days, as the "lesser of two evils" theory has truly taken hold. In that sense, people are, by default, justifying a vote against Coke or Pepsi.

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