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Do we have a chance for the #1 seed?

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  1. BradyManny

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    Yeah, it seems far fetched at first, but check out the scheds the rest of the way for our competition:

    Colts have 3 tough games left, can easily see them going 12-4:

    at Jacksonville
    Cincy

    at Houston
    Miami

    Chargers have 3 tough games left:

    Denver
    Kansas City
    at Seattle

    Arizona

    Baltimore clearly has the easiest sched of the teams, but still could find an L in there:

    at Kansas City
    Cleveland
    at Pittsburgh
    Buffalo
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    After today I'm just hoping to win the division :explative
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    I believe the better question in this situation is:

    Does it matter? Can WE win out?

    that is the real question i have at this point.
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    No...#2 possibly but we cant play nail biters like this till the end of the season. We need to beat the Fins next week. It is a huge...HUGE game.
  5. BradyManny

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    A win is a win, even when we were down 8, I knew we'd still get the W.
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    I only fear the home game. We will win in Miami and on the road in Jacksonville and in Tenn. We are a different team at home versus being at home. I just don't get it.
  7. 5 Rings for Brady!!

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    The way this team looks, we should be hoping to hold off the Jets in our division.

    We will lose next week if we play half as bad as today.

    Yeah, if we win out and all the other good teams roll over, we could be the 1st seed. I don't think that will happen.
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    I don't want a #1 or a #2. If possible I want us to play on the road the entire playoff because it's obvious we just don't like our home field advantage.
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    You can't say that the Patriots would be better off with a #3 or #4 seed then a bye in the first round. No comparison.

    Also, a loss by Miami today would ruin any playoff hopes they are holding on to. A loss today would probably make it an easier game for us next week.
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    I understand that a win is a win, i didnt say that we didnt win today. That isnt the point. The point is we beat a team by 1TD today that we should have beat by more. The TO's dont stop coming.

    Can we continue at the pace that we are going and expect to win the #1 seed? no.

    Can we continue at the pace we are going and expect to win out? that is the question.
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    oh please..... this is not the patriots of years past. look at their turnover ratio. the superbowl teams never did that.

    it doesn't seem like they have been the same since the denver palyoff game.
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    One positive to look at the last few weeks is that we are causing a lot more turnovers then earlier in the season.
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    Ya, I thought the Denver play off performance was a fluke in terms on turn overs but it actually was the start of a trend.
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    I don't think we've played our best. And I think Vrabel and Bruschi are invincible and immortal. *crosses fingers*
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    But that 1 extra week off historically has been huge for teams in the playoffs. The winning percentage for teams with a bye is ridiculous. I'll take the bye and be happy with a #1 or #2 seed.
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    I think we have something like 17-18 turnovers at home this year, and we are killing people on the road, I think I like this teams chances on the road more than at home, but a bye would be cool to have
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    we still have to play the Phins and Jags, and we also have to go on the road to play that pesky Titans team.

    As much as I would love us to, I don't think we will win out, and I think at best we are looking at a 3 seed (overlapping Baltimore)
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    I'll grant you the turnovers, but winning ugly was a staple for the Pats for sometime.

    I really think the 04 season changed the fan's expectations completely. We were totally dominant that year and I think it makes us forget that, at least to me, the identity of this team was winning scrappy games in the last quarter.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe2003.htm

    From week 5 - week 14, all of those wins were tough games and a couple of them were flatout ugly.
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    You can improve ball security. If that's our biggest problem and we're 9-3, I'd say we're looking damn good.

    Only way we could look better would be to be 10-2.:D
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    A lot of ugly, sloppy games that year. It's really not that long ago that we have to keep arguing against the years we "always looked good" or whatever.

    We had one dominating season. The other two bowls and a few bad bounces could have cost us 5-6 games.

    In 2003, this Detroit game would have been one of our easiest wins.
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    LOL, yup I'm with you there.
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    Why doesn't anyone comment on the fact that this team is coming off an emotionally-charged win over the Bears? They came out flat - that's all.

    Look, it's a long season, and you can really only get a team "up" for an opponent 3 or 4 times in the course of that season. Some weeks you'll have a few guys carry team, and some weeks sheer professionalism carries the day, but every once in a while, everyone will come up flat. Happens to the best of 'em.

    Don't worry - be happy!
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    This is the correct answer.

    Everybody has their ups and downs. Winning is all that counts now, if we peak at the right time we've got as good a chance as anyone.

    This guy Bill is a worry wart and he doesn't seem too upset:

    "Just have to give our guys credit for stepping up and making plays there at the end of the game that we needed to make," coach Bill Belichick said. "Fortunately we made some at the end of the half as well. We kind of got our two-minute offense going and we were able to produce something with that. It's good to win. It's good to be 9-3.":D
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    That Vince Young is something, isn't he? It wasn't that the Colts looked bad today, it was ALL Young. Indy will likely be 14-2. Same with SD. Balt will be 11-5.
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    We don't know final records, or there'd be no point in playing the games. Us, the Jets, and the Ravens have it easiest among the contenders. We and the Ravens are closer than before this weekend, but you still have to bank on Indy losing 2 out of 4 of those games... I wouldn't count on it. In fact, I'd bet against it (effectively, Indy has a 2 game advantage, having beaten us.) If you throw in our own possibility of losing (Jax isn't a cakewalk, and has been recently shown, Tenn. can jump up and bite you in the patootie,) I'd call it extremely unlikely we get the 1 seed. I can see the 2 seed much more easily (13-3 record while Bolts go 12-4, or more likely, a tiebreaker with us both at 13-3, though I am sick to death of figuring out the SD/NE tiebreaker logic 4 games early.)

    I will say this - having to win a tiebreaker at 13-3 to avoid playing in the wildcard round means something is very, very wrong with the NFL. Specifically, the NFC.

    PFnV
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    Do we Clinch this week with a win and a Jet loss?

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