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  1. FoxboroFlyer

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    6'4 325lbs. 27 years old.
    Played backup NT to Hampton in Pitt. The last few years.
    He is the heir apparent, and he has looked real good in limited duty.
    Low tendered at 1.3, and no comp. If signed by another team.
    Steelers are planning on using him at NT in 4-3 fronts, and moving him to DE in the 3-4.
    This could be the gem the Pats steal out of Pittsburgh.
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    The guy played 136 defensive snaps and had seven tackles last season. What has he done to show that he's better than Deaderick or Love?
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    From what i saw he took away the middle, and forced all the runs to the outside.
    He also generated plenty of pressure on the qb.
    Stats may not be there, but he is better than deaderick, and Love.
    They really like this guy in pittsburgh, and i can see why.
    He should have seen more reps over Hampton last year.
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    Aren't D-lineman stats at the mercy of whatever scheme a team plays? For instance, I always understood that Richard Seymour's value could not be assessed by sacks or tackles but more but his role in ruling the gaps.
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    To an extent, yes. But if the guy were as good as claimed, then he'd be making some plays on his own. Three of his tackles were sacks (one full and two assisted), meaning he literally had four tackles against the run all season. Even Wilfork, the perfect example of a player who does the dirty work to make other players' jobs easier rather than getting the stats himself, had four tackles in six individual games last season.
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    Define "from what i saw." Did you make a concerted effort to watch the Pittsburgh defense, check whether McLendon was on the field, and then evaluate his performance? That sounds like a ridiculous thing to attempt to do, considering he was on the field roughly 1/2 as much as Sterling Moore or Trevor Scott, and around 1/3 as much as Brandon Deaderick.
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    The guy was playing behind Hampton...you're going to fault him on that?
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    Basically the local pittsburgh play by play commentators breaking down the play in slow mo. Is what i "define" as what i saw.

    And what they said, and what i saw was very comprehensive.

    You obviously do not understand how anal the pitt. Media is, when breaking down plays.
    They beat it through your head...to death. Sometimes it makes sense though.
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    DL- Steve mcLendon...the Pitt. RFA the Pats should target

    Stats could be misleading as a NT in the Steelers scheme. Hampton who for many years was considered a top NT in the NFL never had more than 27 tackles in a season.

    FULL CAREER STATS

    SEASON TEAM TACKLES SACKS FF INT
    2012 ___ PIT ___ 26 ____ 0.0 _ 0 _ 0
    2012 ___ PIT ___ 11 ____ 0.0 _ 0 _ --
    2011 ___ PIT ___ 17 ____ 0.0 _ 0 _ --
    2010 ___ PIT ___ 10 ____ 1.0 _ 1 _ --
    2009 ___ PIT ___ 23 ____ 2.5 _ 0 _ --
    2008 ___ PIT ___ 13 ____ 1.0 _ 0 _ --
    2007 ___ PIT ___ 17 ____ 0.5 _ 0 _ --
    2006 ___ PIT ___ 25 ____ 0.0 _ 1 _ --
    2005 ___ PIT ___ 25 ____ 0.0 _ 0 _ --
    2004 ___ PIT ___ 8 _____ 0.0 _ 0 _ --
    2003 ___ PIT ___ 27 ____ 1.0 _ 0 _ --
    2002 ___ PIT ___ 23 ____ 2.0 _ 2 _ --
    2001 ___ PIT ___ 9 _____ 1.0 _ 0 _ --
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    If it's all about "stats" I can not fathom how any sane individual can clamor, for emmanuel sanders, for a 3rd round pick, and a meaty contract.

    That is laughable.
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    FWIW, Mike Vrabel wasn't Mike Vrabel when he was in Pittsburgh, either.

    Not saying he's worth it, merely that there could be potential there.
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    Idk. I was simply trying to point out a guy who has great potential.

    Position flexibility.

    Oh, and supposedly the DL, was BB first priority...until he missed on Bryant.

    I hope this is plan B.
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    You are talking about a guy who played 9 snaps a game. You can't really expect us to believe that commentators spoke enough about the guy to give a clear assessment, if they even noticed him.
    Not to mention all NFL games are announcer by network commentators, so there really aren't 'local Pittsburgh play by play commentators'. Now you may be speaking about some kind of local TV show, but I know of none in any city that are deep enough to devote any time to a 9 snap a game player.
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    What tells you DL was BBs first priority?

    I'm not sure where you are getting 325lbs, he is listed at 280,
    Steve McLendon NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com
    which is way to small to play on the nose.


    If Pitt was as high on him as you think they wouldn't have no comp tendered him.
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    He didn't play "9 snaps a game".

    He started and played in several games. It's not like it was spot duty at "9 snaps a game".

    I mean if you're gonna criticize get your **** straight.

    You're right though andy johnson. You see, and know everything.

    I beg your forgiveness my lord.
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    Maybe cause they've already restructured every contract under the sun, and they have no cap room to work with...maybe that has something to do with it.

    Just prior to FA there was an actual link up top stating the pats were looking at DL as priority one.

    And he is 325.
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    perhaps the reason he is not getting interest in FA is because of the 45lbs he mysteriously added since the end of last season. Might not be good weight.
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    Hey, FoxboroFlyer, you don't even have 5,000 posts! How dare you try to act like you know more than some of the real vets around here! Frankly, I dig threads like the one you started. Love to hear insightful comment from someone who's paying attention - I'm not kidding.

    But hey man, play nice, because even from your limited playing time I can see you have talent and play hard - you're better than that last cheap dig. The whole team suffers from one player's fouls, you should know that! :D:D:D
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    I think in an effort, some people have missed the point of the OP. The Pats are acknowledged as looking for more DT depth. The OP was just suggesting a player that he thought flashed at that position. What's the problem?

    "Steelers extended an original-pick tender to restricted free agent NT Steve McLendon.
    McLendon is believed to be the heir apparent to Casey Hampton at nose tackle, but there's also chatter that he could move to defensive end in the 3-4. He has ideal height at 6-foot-4 while also showing the ability to push the pocket in limited opportunities. The low tender will pay McLendon $1.323 million. Mar 9 - 3:58 PM".

    BTW- Rotoworld had him at 325, while Yahoo Sports had him at 280. That's a significant difference. But that's not the point really. While there are some suggestions that come on this board that ARE ludicrous, this one wasn't.

    If the Rotoworld blurb is to be believed, then why not McClendon. A 6'4 325lb guy with 4 years experience playing behind a perennial all pro, SHOULD be looked closely at.
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    Even at 280 he is more than capable of playing DT in 4 man fronts, and DE in the 3-4.

    He looks a heck of alot bigger than 280 to me, though.

    I'll go with rotoworlds measurement on this one.
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    I've always suspectedthat even the most trusted sights probbly list a players weight as a rookie, then just leave it up there. Does anyone know a site that updates the weights of every player every year? No way for me to tell that, but here's a Pitt fan forum.

    Steve McLendon- 325 lb beast - Steelers Fever Forums

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    Good find, I think we need someone there to take what would have been Brace's slot. A one year 3mill deal should be enough to pry him away. If he looks good at the start of the year we could extend him
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    They liked him enoiugh to have tendered them. They did not tender two other players (Jeremy Kapinos and Stevenson Sylvester). Given the lack of interest in making RFAs offers since 2010 a team should tender a player at the lowest level possible while also not making it tempting for another team to go after that player. I believe that is what the Steelers have done in this case.

    As cap-strapped as the Steelers have been this offseason one could say that they could not afford to give him the 2nd round tender level.
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    He played 136 snaps in 16 games, that is actually 8 1/2.

    He staeted no games.

    A) Right back atcha.
    B) I wasn't criticizing, I was discussing your comments.

    Not sure where your nasty attitude is coming from. I am simply responding to your comments. If you are going to take it personally you may want to just ignore anyone who responds.

    And with that it would appear there is no point trying to have a discussion.
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    Good answer, that does make sense.
    However, he was portrayed as a starter for the upcoming season and a 'gem' we could steal, in the OP, so at THAT level they would have found a way to protect him wouldn't they?

    I'm not saying he is worthless, just that the way Pitt tendered him doesn't seem consistent with the OP portrayal.
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    I can accept that until you say he is going to be a starter and a 'gem' we can steal. That and a no comp tender doesn't add up.

    Thanks for the answer. I remmeber the article and it was a prediction of what BB may be thinking based upon prior years. I would not agree that is proof DL was his #1 priority.

    There seems to be conflicting evidence here. I don't know. If we were to consider him, I hope he is 280 not 325, because 280 fits our needs, much, much more than 325.
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    Pittsburgh simply does not have the cap space to keep everyone.
    They've handed some massive contracts over the last few years, and have already restructured just about everyone they could this year.
    This is a classic case of them getting their guy at low cost because theyre hoping no other team noticed him last year in his backup role imo.

    And fwiw I never said the pats would sign him, as a starter...although I think he has the potential to be one.
    Just my opinion.
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    Discussing and/or disagreeing with parts of a post or opinion does not mean it is 100% wrong.
    As an RFA to add depth to the DL it is intriguing. But overbuilding a guy who played 136 snaps as a starter at NT in the 43 and DE in the 34 who is a 'gem' we could steal to fill our biggest priority requires discussion.
    If I said we need to sign Julian Edelman because he will outproduce Welker would deservedly get response that the reasoning is bizarre, but that wouldn't mean Edelman has no value.

    Good addition to the conversation, but not consistent with the OP. That kind of is the point.

    Ludicrous, no, but overhyped, definitely.
    And 280 vs 325 are 2 entirely different roles in our defense, essentially 2 different players. I don't know how you judge fit and need without that answer.

    That is a big IF. Plus NT isn't really a need here. I'm not one to believe that you are a function of the talent of the guy you played behind. The backup to a good player is no more likely to be good than the backup to an average player.
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    I understand your comments, and they make sense for a reserve player who plays sparingly, which is what he has always been.
    I think it is not consistent with your hype of the player. If he were projected to be a starter and stud player they would have fit him in for what would turn out to be a cheap price for a player that good, or signed him to a longer term deal that is more cap friendly.
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    I guess we will all find out this year when he gets his first chance at being a starter.
    I like the guys potential, and the Steeler fans do, as well.
    I was simply pointing out an interesting player, yet you act as if I'm claiming the guy is best to ever play.
    He'd be a nice rotational player for the pats at the very least.
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