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Both sides of the Patriots were exposed on Sunday night, a game the Patriots eventually won.
Sigh.........Looks like group think is the in thing tonight (and every other night).
Who writes these articles, chicken little? You'd think the people running this joint would have a little perspective.
Bob George wrote it. Honestly, I'm really a little surprised he bought into it.
You mean both anterior AND posterior? Holy Crap!
They played their worst game of the season against a team that played its best game of the season and still won. It's not encouraging, but it didn't "expose" them either. Anyone that didn't realize that our LBs are slow before now shouldn't be in the NFL in any capacity anyways.
Not to nitpick but I don't think the Ravens have a great defense anymore. They've given up 30+ two weeks in a row, including today against a Philip Rivers-led offense.
Actually I thought that article was pretty well written.
The Patriots DO need to reprogram and rethink their offense and defense packages. The gameplan this week almost lost it for them.
McDaniel has to think of ways to get Moss involved early. A hot Moss makes the offense work so MUCH BETTER because of what his presence creates.
I think the Patriots can STILL got 16-0, it's just not going to be easy for them. They're going to have to rethink some things, like defending the in cut rout, and they're going to need to make their offense multidimensional so defenses can't load up vs the pass and Randy Moss.
Ugh. Why do people expect that the Patriots are going to play this poorly every game the rest of the way? Not going to happen. Reality: they played their worst and still won. Plus from a scheming standpoint, you never see the same Pats team twice. But if you listen to the mediots this week, you would think they lost the game.
Edit - To be fair, this isn't a criticism of the article in particular, as I haven't read it yet. It's a general statement on my part.
Yes. The Patriots are fraudulent.
Just because they didn't rack up 52 points on a solid defensive team shouldn't bring on the panic buttons. The Eagles came to play. As I asked in another thread, where the heck has that Eagles team been all year? That team would be ruling the NFC right now.
The Eagles made a conscious effort to shut down Randy Moss and they have a stingy run defense... The Patriots came into the game with a gameplan and stuck with it.
It resulted in over 400 yards of offense.
This is how you know you're spoiled as a fanbase... The offense racks up over 400 yards and yet people still say it was exposed.
Something else we've forgotten to consider: how many of us thought this thing was over at 7-0? Asante ran back a pick, and New England had the lead without its offense having to take the field? Seemed easy at the time.
I'm sure that, no matter how much "humble pie" get tossed around the Pats' locker room, they read the point spreads and - as in today's game - come in mentally unprepared. Once they took a 7-0 lead without any work, I'm sure a few players took a brain vacation. Hey, it happens.
The offensive play was satisfactory. I think most people are more concerned with the D.
It's called discussing the game ... something knowledgeable fans know something about. My nephew lives in Philly and he tells me how clueless the Eagles fans are ... he says very few know how to discuss a game.
Are you an Eagles Fan BH? Stay awhile and you may learn something.
No, remember they lost to A.J. Feely in '04. They ended up winning the superbowl. In fact, don't be suprised to see the Eagles lose to whomever they play next week. Although the Pats didn't play that great, don't buy into the hype that the "blueprint is out". If they blow out the Ravens, everyone will forget about the Eagles game.
"Suffice it to say that all talk of a 16-0 regular season will probably go away, for now."
Incredibly stupid article. Perfect bandwaggon think. The Pats didn't win by 20 points, therefore not only have then been lucky to win, but they have been exposed and now everyone will know how to beat them.
I haven't heard this since the Indy game.
So far all I have seen is that two teams have shown how to almost beat the Patriots.
Hey, I love the blowouts as much as anyone, but it is silly to think that the Pats will never have a bad game. Bad games are the reason it is so hard to win week in and week out.
Brady had a bad game, underthrowing and throwning behind recievers.
Our receivers dropped passes (Moss dropped TWO!)
Our O-line had a bad game
Our D had a horrible game
The Eagles played an excellent game
Feeley was making great passes
The Eagles receivers played as well as they possibly could
The Eagles defense played incredibly well, and got great pressure on the Brady
AND WE STILL WON!!!!
But wait, read the article and find out how these scenarios will not only happen every week from now on, but even more so. Read how the Pats have been "exposed" and all talk of 16-0 will cease.
Well, we don't need to win 16 games. We only need to win FIVE!
You might want to hold off pouring Shula's champagne just yet.
I swear I saw AJ Feely throw a TD pass with his eys closed. He was flinching and let're rip. He was slinging it Drew Bledsoe style. The result was the same as most Bledsoe games; win some fans but lose the game.
You can play to shut out Randy but you have to have the personal to do it.Most teams don't.
They'll be fine it was their worsed played game of the year.They looked lethargic to me.
As far as the running game goes.They only tried to run the ball twice in the first half.And when yo saw Maroney you kne they were running .Do you think the Eagles might have had a clue?
I thin BB purposley put in a ****ty game plan to so he can get their attention going forward.
I don't give a frigg how much they were "exposed".Nobody going to beat them end of story.
The 1985 Bears, a team considered by many to be the greatest team in NFL history, lost a game 38-24. They also had some close scores in victory:
That's one loss, 5 wins by 10 points or fewer and two wins by a touchdown or less.
The great 15 win San Francisco team won 7 games by 10 points or fewer and lost a game as well (20-17 by the Steelers)
Even the greatest NFL teams have 'bad' games, and New England is still undefeated.
Don't sweat it, guys-like I said in another thread, the Eagles have been Jeckle and Hyde all year-they would look GREAT one week, then LOUSY the next.
They lost to Chicago at the Linc, a game where they got NO pressure against an ageing OL.
The week after, against a massive Vikings' OL, they managed to get alot of pressure(and knocked out Holcomb), and stuffed AD along the way.
The week after that, the Cowboys just smacked them on both sides of the ball.
The week after that, they have an impressive, come from behind win by scoring 20 in the 4th against the Skins.
The week after that, despite beating Miami, they somehow couldn't generate ANY pressure against a weak Fins' OL/rookie QB.
You get the pattern? When you think they're in the dumps, they'll supposedly proven everyone wrong. Then when everyone thinks they're back on track, they'll lay an egg, and all this talk of how they're finished comes back again.
Wait, I know... how about if we get the sabermetrics geeks to tell us what ratio of Randyness we need for optimal effect. We could call it, oh, I don't know, how about "the Randy ratio..." then broadcast to the whole league how we're getting him into X% of the plays...
Okay seriously, I like your second paragraph a lot better than your first.
We don't know exactly what the run-less offense was about, but we did see a good deal of burst out of LM when he was in.
But coverage (defense) was weak... there were some drops, and Tommy was misfiring some. He was playing hurried all night. There was a good deal of pressure in his grill, which of course goes back to the O-line. No time for many deep balls, no running game, but at least we carved 'em up pretty well over the middle. They picked their poison, and -- with the running game removed -- we helped them narrow it down. But we still beat them with what was left to us to use. Kudos to the Iggles!
Compared to other years, tonight was "marching the ball down the field." Our expectations are just all messed up this year. That was a perfectly good, if not dominant, offensive performance, but defensively... what can I say?
You can't hope to stop A.J. Feeley. You can only hope to contain him
Important factoid...The Eagles offense actually put more points on the board than the Pats offense. The difference in the game was that our Pats were able to get away with no interceptions in 54 passing attempts.
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