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Once we start winning these threads will stop. Oh wait, nevermindBella*chick said:Please tell me we are not in for a whole week's worth of threads like this.
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PatsFan-NH said:Brady has said himself that he is very emotional, and wears his heart on his sleeve. He cares very much about the game, the Pats, and his team mates.
Regardless of how it happened, who is at fault, or why, Brady appears to have a broken heart. Perhaps its missing Deion (and Willie), perhaps its the loss of his image of the perfect team, perhaps its a loss of faith in the FO and ownership, perhaps its all of the above, or something else.
If he is unable to 'just get over it', if he continues to play without fire, and passion, if its just going through the motions, what then ? Not everything that gets broken can be mended, and not everything mended is as good as new.
He is professional, and perfectionist enough not to want average to be his everyday reality and his legacy, even if his average is much better than the best of other QBs.
All we can do is wait and see what happens, and hope he can work it out.
mac said:He may be human, but Brady is also a highly-paid professional who needs to start playing, thinking, and acting like a professional. I would also recommend backing of from the constant giving of interviews. Tom plays best when he is "part of", not when he is trying to carry the team, either on or off the field.
Okay, That's it. Time for a timeout for you. Go stand in the corner for five minutes.SCPatBoy said:Can you please grace us with your superior football intelect and educate us on what is going on, since you have clearly demonstrated yourself as a mature, educated person........................................Coulkd you grow up and don't post to a thread if you don't like it.....That is the Big thing to do!!
SCPatBoy said:Th ereality of it is, Tom has never been a selfish player. He has always put the team first ( Money, Stats etc..). If there was anyone in this league who could ask for the moon and have every one except one or two teams in the NFL ready to give it to him, it would be Brady.......Maybe this once he really wanted to keep that constant in Branch in the fold.....I can say that if Brady really wanted it, then they should have worked to get it done.I think it is important for a QB to have his favorite target, even if we don't agree. BB had to know that Brady wanted Branch back badly, Maybe Tom feels like he has given and now !!!
They don't have to leave. They can make millions here. They can make even more millions elsewhere. When they decide they have enough money to live comfortably, they can choose (as free agents) to play wherever they will be happiest. So they should not be sad at all.PatsFan-NH said:The other guys realize that when their contracts are up they are going to have to leave. Why, because they can get better money elsewhere.
Sure, he was saying to expect Jackson and Gabriel to play like Branch and Givens did in their first year, not their fourth year. Not that I'd want anyone to play like Givens did in his first year, but Brady certainly is correct in that we shouldn't be comparing Jackson's first year to Branch's last year.pats1 said:Sorry for dragging this one further, but I picked up something reading the Globe today.
Brady said something to the effect of "you can't throw four years of offense at a player in a week."
Notice how he says four years of the offense? Not 3. Not 2. Not 5. Not 15.
Who had four years of the offense under their belts?
Deion Branch and David Givens.
PatsFan-NH said:The team basically said it didn't care about Brady when they did this. I think previously he really believed the BS they hand out about team, and self-sacrifice, then they turn around and say 'business' and kiss good players off.
pats1 said:Sorry for dragging this one further, but I picked up something reading the Globe today.
Brady said something to the effect of "you can't throw four years of offense at a player in a week."
Notice how he says four years of the offense? Not 3. Not 2. Not 5. Not 15.
Who had four years of the offense under their belts?
Deion Branch and David Givens.
PatsFan-NH said:What you all seem to be missing in your denial of Brady's problems is just what he is wrestling with.
Yes its Branch and Wille and team mates he knows who are friends, but it doesn't stop there. With this action the writing is on the wall not just for Tom but for all the guys, which is probably why they are so upset. Yes they say its for Branch et al, but its also for themselves.
The other guys realize that when their contracts are up they are going to have to leave. Why, because they can get better money elsewhere and the Pats have shown they don't care and will let you go. Doesn't matter if the Pats think its overpaying, if the market supports it, thats what they will expect. Some will stay, but others won't.
Branch's departure is essentially their funeral dirge. They are sad because they were hoping they would be different and the team would keep them -- its human nature to think you are special. Branch's departure is like a wet fish in the face: doesn't matter who you are they will not pay more for you than for a cheap rookie.
The players are not playing for charity and if they can get a better deal somewhere else they will probably have to take it, and if they don't their friends will. Yes they care about the other guys, and probably know that staying with BB is the best from a football perspective, but especially if you have a couple of rings, and the Pats effectively spit in your face, you will go.
Brady is in a different situation. Much worse. Even if he can physically stay another 7 years, his talent may not last that long (can we say Brett Farve). So he has a limited amount of time to use his gift. What the Pats have basically said to him is that every couple of years he is going to have to go through this, because the receivers he is in synch with are going to leave. So he is constantly going to have to throw to scrubs. Once he gets the good ones trained they are going to be gone (Troy is the only one who has not left). The new CBA prevents teams from singing longterm rookie contracts.
The team basically said it didn't care about Brady when they did this. I think previously he really believed the BS they hand out about team, and self-sacrifice, then they turn around and say 'business' and kiss good players off.
If Brady's receivers have training wheels every other year or every two years he can kiss his chance at true record book greatness goodbye. He may not have that as a specific goal but he does want to be the best and perfect, and as his last 2 outings show, even though we won, he has not been anywhere near his level of acceptable. Its like he is having a rookie year all over again - trying to get the throws right based on different heights, speeds, etc....
And if you looked at him sitting on the bench on the sideline staring into space, there can be no doubt that he is not happy. Hell, he usually doesn't sit on the bench when he is actually in the game.
What did Peter King say, that when Brady gave his Post-Jets press conference, even though he won, he sounded like his dog had died.
Its not just us, people around the league are noticing it too.
PatsFan-NH said:What you all seem to be missing in your denial of Brady's problems is just what he is wrestling with.
Yes its Branch and Wille and team mates he knows who are friends, but it doesn't stop there. With this action the writing is on the wall not just for Tom but for all the guys, which is probably why they are so upset. Yes they say its for Branch et al, but its also for themselves.
The other guys realize that when their contracts are up they are going to have to leave. Why, because they can get better money elsewhere and the Pats have shown they don't care and will let you go. Doesn't matter if the Pats think its overpaying, if the market supports it, thats what they will expect. Some will stay, but others won't.
Branch's departure is essentially their funeral dirge. They are sad because they were hoping they would be different and the team would keep them -- its human nature to think you are special. Branch's departure is like a wet fish in the face: doesn't matter who you are they will not pay more for you than for a cheap rookie.
The players are not playing for charity and if they can get a better deal somewhere else they will probably have to take it, and if they don't their friends will. Yes they care about the other guys, and probably know that staying with BB is the best from a football perspective, but especially if you have a couple of rings, and the Pats effectively spit in your face, you will go.
Brady is in a different situation. Much worse. Even if he can physically stay another 7 years, his talent may not last that long (can we say Brett Farve). So he has a limited amount of time to use his gift. What the Pats have basically said to him is that every couple of years he is going to have to go through this, because the receivers he is in synch with are going to leave. So he is constantly going to have to throw to scrubs. Once he gets the good ones trained they are going to be gone (Troy is the only one who has not left). The new CBA prevents teams from singing longterm rookie contracts.
The team basically said it didn't care about Brady when they did this. I think previously he really believed the BS they hand out about team, and self-sacrifice, then they turn around and say 'business' and kiss good players off.
If Brady's receivers have training wheels every other year or every two years he can kiss his chance at true record book greatness goodbye. He may not have that as a specific goal but he does want to be the best and perfect, and as his last 2 outings show, even though we won, he has not been anywhere near his level of acceptable. Its like he is having a rookie year all over again - trying to get the throws right based on different heights, speeds, etc....
And if you looked at him sitting on the bench on the sideline staring into space, there can be no doubt that he is not happy. Hell, he usually doesn't sit on the bench when he is actually in the game.
What did Peter King say, that when Brady gave his Post-Jets press conference, even though he won, he sounded like his dog had died.
Its not just us, people around the league are noticing it too.