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Joe Flacco, Tom Brady on opposite ends of quarterback contract spectrum - NFL - Peter King - SI.com
I didn't realize the whole thing wasn't guaranteed in advance. (Most of it is, however.)
They (the media) will still spin this as something unholy.
Great to hear straight from the boss anyway .
Florio is already pounding the same story he's put out there for the last 2 weeks. He keeps insisting that the deal is a sham and the last 3 years don't matter. BTW- what does he base his position on. NOTHING. Just another chance for a Steeler zealot to take a shot at the Pats.
On a positive note. Its been 5 minutes and my comment to his post hasn't been deleted yet. Below is what I wrote
Let's stir up the hornets nest..... Isn't providing passage on a private jet a form of compensation?
Kraft insists Brady deal wonâ€™t be re-done | ProFootballTalk
He's been factually inaccurate, and/or warped the facts since the getgo. Unreal.
Please feel free to send the guy a piece of your mind. I know I will. I'm getting too old to let such unbridled stupidity go unnoticed.
I'm sure your post will be deleted, Ken - unfortunately. If you post a comment that exposes what a fraud Florio is, it tends to get taken down promptly. I've put several completely civil and calm remarks under his articles over the last couple weeks, and they were all gone soon enough.
Its sad and bad that florio suggests a side deal then says there is no evidence of it and if brady deal isnt reworked there will be suspicions. Really pathetic.
Sign a star to a $100+ mill contract that will never be fully paid....the owner gets placed on a pedestal.
Sign a star to a contract that likely gets paid in full and likely to match the actual payout of the $100+ million star above....and this owner is treated with skepticism. The world we live in.
I don't like that last line about Tom not making demands. While I assume its true I question why he mentions it?
Is it to gear fans up that Brady's favorite target might be gone?
Or am I reading too much between the lines?
Ken, I love reading your posts. However, respectfully, I've got a different take on Florio. Although Florio may be a Steelers fan, I think what he is really a fan of is $$. He makes a living by posting rumors that he mostly gets from players agents, his "sources", and writing these rumors up to be as controversial as possible. Naturally agents don't like this deal for Tom Brady, and I'm sure they have communicated this to to Florio, spinning the story in the worst possible light for Brady and the Patriots (with little regard for the truth). Thus, all of Florio's articles paint the Brady deal in the worst possible light with little regard for the truth. It seems logical if you take into account how Florio's bread is buttered.
I think it was worth asking Kraft about that â€” it's been speculated on so much. And I think the use of the word "demands" in the response matters. For all his greatness Brady has always shown he knows he's not the coach or the owner or anyone else; it wouldn't be his style to make "demands." But I would be surprised if he did not make his opinions known. Kraft pretty much says he did in the sentence before the one about not making demands: "...Now he's rooting for us to make the right decisions in building the team."
I love when Florio floats a rumor then his very next headline dispels his rumor. For this he gets his own TV show. What a country
I don't think we disagree all that much. I think what you wrote is both insightful and correct. But I do think he takes special joy in tweaking the Pats and their fans.
And while I hate it when he deletes critical posts, I have to say I just checked and my post as well as several other critical posts are still up
Gotta love Florio. He is no different than anyone on this board...a fan with an opinion who knows how to go to ESPN.com, SI.com and all other news websites -copy others news and posts it in one place. He adds nothing to the NBC broadcast
This is my exact opinion on him except I will take it further as there are posters on here who bring more to the table than he does via cap analysis.
Tom Brady deal brokered in air
Report -- Robert Kraft of New England Patriots says Tom Brady deal brokered on plane - ESPN Boston
It's obvious to me that a guy like MoLewisRocks would destroy Florio in terms of cap understanding.
But honestly, I'd say most posters here have a better understanding of the cap than Florio. Florio has exposed himself as someone who is mailing it in - and has no time to actually excel at his job or offer anything of value. His knowledge is very ordinary.
I take exception to that comment. My knowledge is very ordinary as well and I don't like being compared to Florio . Though, I have plenty of passion for the Patriots and don't make a living by trying to create drama where none exists.
Kraft is trying to protect Bradys good name. Kraft and Brady have always been adamant that Brady trusts the front office and doesn't try to tell them what they should or shouldn't do.
For all of Bradys talents and abilities, how humble he is really is the most amazing and great thing about him and why he is so great.
In a world of Joe Flacco demanding to be paid hundreds of millions of dollars in order to "get respect", Brady sacrifices and constantly humbles himself and praises others profusely.
Flacco could win ten straight superbowls and Brady go winless for the next five years and Brady will always be a winner. Flacco will always be a loser with a small package and massive ego.
I've always wanted to know this. Thanks for checking for us.
I saw your post yesterday -- the exact same thing happened to me. After writing PFT to ask what happened, they confirmed that they deleted the post because it was critical of Florio.
I'm a journalist myself and had commented on Florio's site about the highly dubious ethics of his coverage of the Brady deal. I began by saying, "Florioâ€™s attempts to sell this Brady extension as a dirty deal are becoming increasingly desperate," and added that "there was never anything suspicious or even terribly unusual about the deal. Brady did a service for the team by taking a steeply lowered cap number in the final three years. In exchange, he got a slight raise in the next two years."
Then I added at the end: "It's really bad journalism to imply that something untoward has taken place and that someone has been 'coloring outside the lines' without having anything to back it up. The fact that Florio continually uses the passive 'mistakes were made' construction to make these accusations ('skepticism will persist,' 'suspicions will persist') only underscores the weakness of his argument."
Again, I posted this comment, saw that it had been deleted, and then wrote PFT to ask what had happened. Their response:
Ticket #: 1173513
Subject: are my comments being edited out?
Solution: [Mar 4 2013 6:17PM] :
The deletion of your comments most like has to do with the fact that you called Mike Florio Desperate.
"Florioâ€™s attempts to sell this Brady extension as a dirty deal are becoming increasingly desperate."
So that's just FYI -- Florio is either editing out negative comments, or having someone do it on his behalf.
Seems like it's time to take this one to Twitter (ie include the url to your response or embed it in a blog and include that url). There's nothing so reviled in the social media as in-authenticity especially around claimed expertise and knowledge. After all Florio has demonstrated that he lives by the sword...
Man, I proved you wrong a couple times and now you're going out of your way to attack and contradict me, no matter how insignificant or irrelevant it is. You must really be upset.
I'm guessing Customer Support = Mike Florio. Note that you did not call Mike Florio desperate in his post, merely his attempt to portray the Brady deal as something it wasn't as desperate...Customer Support clearly is a little overly sensitive...
I would try emailing Florio directly - at some point, the man has to cave and realize he's really made a fool of himself in the last couple weeks. The frustrating part is that until Brady retires without restructuring this deal to pay him more, Florio won't listen to reason.
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