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    The Denver Post seems to think so.

    I find some of this article rather funny. A lot of it ill-informed. Most of it just horribly written. I am glad we have journalists like Reiss to give us our Sunday football notes section instead of this drivel.

    The writer seems caught in between two stories here. One on liegate and one on Daniel Graham. Neither got him anywhere.
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    Re: Denver's secretive nature, the key to their success vs pats?

    wow....well this is full of things to post in my new thread. wonder what they will say after the pats crush the broncos this season? prob just claim they cheated.
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    Re: Denver's secretive nature, the key to their success vs pats?

    Yeah, I almost posted it in your thread but I saw you were looking for quotes from "fans". I figured mediot tools from the Rockies did not count as "fans".
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    Re: Denver's secretive nature, the key to their success vs pats?

    According to the writer, there have only been 42 meaningful games played in the last 42 years.
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    Re: Denver's secretive nature, the key to their success vs pats?

    Yeah, this is life in the Rockies.

    It reminds me of an old "Graffiti" cartoon that said, "There's no need to be ashamed of poverty...unless you got it dishonestly."

    Identical mindset here....
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    Re: Denver's secretive nature, the key to their success vs pats?

    "Many teams were identified as victims, but not the Broncos." Really. How many teams were "victims" of the Broncos cap circumvention? Which I feel was a MUCH more egregious act.
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    Re: Denver's secretive nature, the key to their success vs pats?

    right....like somehow the super bowl means something but all those games that are played that decide who plays in the super bowl are not......according to his logic all the games the broncos beat the pats in do not mean anything. and the pats have only won 3 meaningful games in the history of the team, the broncos have won 2.

    where do these people come from and how are they taken seriously?
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    Re: Denver's secretive nature, the key to their success vs pats?

    he might still be upset about the world series. the red sox won 4 meaningful games against the rockies, who won zero against the sox.
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    Actually the red sox only won 1 meaningful game, because it clinched the Series :rolleyes:
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    We are going to blow the Broncos out this season, 42-3.
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    Yawn, he's right... I'm not even going to watch football this year, it's boring. Can someone send me an e-mail or something if the Pats make it to the Super Bowl? I don't feel like wasting my time watching "meaningless" games :rolleyes:
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    Re: Denver's secretive nature, the key to their success vs pats?

    Since the authors entire assumption is that the Pats can't beat the Broncos because they can't get signals off of them, I wanted to outline all of the games against the Broncos.

    2001 season: Pats lose to the Broncos as Tom makes only his 5th career start while Bledsoe is injured.
    2002 season. Yes, the Pats lose to the Broncos...but they also don't make the playoffs.
    2003 season. Pats beat the Broncos. Go on to win SB.
    2004 season. Pats don't play Broncos. A fair assumption would be that if we did, we wouldve beat them. :D Go on to win SB.
    2005 season. Pats lose regular season game to Broncos. Broncos are 13-3 this season, the Pats are 10-6. Broncos are clearly the better of the two teams this season. Pats lose to the Broncos during the divisional round of the playoffs. BS PI call on A$ante and 5 interceptions aid the Pat's loss.
    2006 season. Pats lose to the Broncos 17-7. This is the only game you could question if you really wanted to. However, Patriots have no offensive threats and Dillon was injured in first half.
    2007 season. Pats don't play Bronocs.

    So, I guess I'm missing the authors point here.
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    In 2000, Belichick's first year with New England, he notches his first win with the Pats at Denver. No way he has tapes of anything for that game.
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    Incredible...

    These "journalists" make me feel like I could be a sports writer too.
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    Re: Denver's secretive nature, the key to their success vs pats?

    Yes, tapes sure didn't help us that season...I think we were 5-11 if I'm not mistaken. Of course the author leaves out 2000 and goes from 2001.
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    I think what may have happened is the editors at the Denver Post wanted to cast some doubt on the Pats after this previous article resulted in unfavorable comments from the newspaper's customers - Bronco fans.
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    Re: Denver's secretive nature, the key to their success vs pats?

    What does that even mean? So many of his statements are just plain wrong, and I think it's reasonable to question whether this guy ever passed a high school English class with his terrible grammar.
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    Re: Denver's secretive nature, the key to their success vs pats?

    Wow. That's a great find!
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    Re: Denver's secretive nature, the key to their success vs pats?

    I'm a pessimist. They should but something weird will happen. A minor earthquake or something, maybe a meteor's strike. Anyway, the Broncos will beat the Patriots QBed by Miller or something. (Larry Izzo has to play the majority of snaps, etc.)
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    Re: Denver's secretive nature, the key to their success vs pats?

    i hope those chop blocking, cheap shot artists do feel "cheated".
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    Re: Denver's secretive nature, the key to their success vs pats?

    What a stupid article! The Pats have historically done bad against the Broncos long before Belichick was the head coach. Was Shanahan's secretive nature the reason when Carroll, Parcells, Berry, etc. were head coaches?

    The Pats have a horrible record in Miami, but not against Miami up here. Does that mean the Miami coaches are more secretive down in Florida?

    Denver has a horrible record vs. Indy in the Dungy era. Does that mean Shanahan lets his guard down?

    In the playoffs two years ago, the Pats lost primarily because of five turnovers which one was a RB fumble and two were on special teams. Not to mention the Champ Bailey INT was a rare illavised throw by Brady where he should have either taken the sack or thrown the ball out of bounds. Did Shanahan hiding defensive signals cause two defensive turnovers?

    In 2004, Brady threw for 350 yards, 3 TDs, and 1 INT vs. the Broncos. Was that a rare game where Shanahan let his guard down and let the Pats read their signals?

    Even in 2006, with Doug Gabriel and Reche Caldwell as his primary receivers, the Pats had 370 yards of offense and might have won the game if Gabriel didn't drop the ball on a big gain (might have been a TD if he held onto the ball) and then Caldwell didn't hold onto the fumble recovery.

    Or how about 2005 during the regular season, with Dillon, Faulk, Troy Brown, and Matt Light out of the line up that day and the Pats almost came back from a 25 point deficit and had 388 yards of offense that day. Which hurt the Pats more? Not knowing the Broncos' defensive signals or Patrick Pass as the Pats' lead running back? Who had the advantage their of knowing the calls? The Broncos knew the Pats weren't going to run the ball that often.

    I hate it when writers try to manufacture stories. You look at individual games and you will see that not being able to steal signals was clearly not the reason the Patriots lost to the Broncos.

    Besides, Shanahan is the king of trying to steal signals.
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    i am thinking this has to be a joke, nobody could write about football for a newspaper and know that little about it.
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