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  1. Patters

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    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...en11dec11,0,6920725.story?coll=la-home-center

    BAGHDAD -- The Iraqi government has ordered all policewomen to hand in their guns for redistribution to men or face having their pay withheld, thwarting a U.S. initiative to bring women into the nation's police force.

    The Interior Ministry, which oversees the police, issued the order late last month, according to ministry documents, U.S. officials and several of the women. It affects all officers who have earned the title "policewoman" by graduating from the police academy. It does not apply to men in the same type of jobs.

    Critics say the move is the latest sign of the religious and cultural conservatism that has taken hold in Iraq since Saddam Hussein's ouster ushered in a government dominated by Shiite Muslims. Now, that tendency is hampering efforts to bring stability to Iraq by driving women from the force, said U.S. Army Brig. Gen. David Phillips, who has led the effort to recruit female officers.

    "We nursed it along," he said last week, referring to the recruiting effort. "We saw this as: 'If we could get 50% of the brain power in this country that is not being utilized engaged, how much further along would we be?' "
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    Were there even female police officers under Saddam?
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    I'm pretty sure the answer was yes. Saddam ran the most secular of the Arab countries up until 1991, when he became more religious as part of his strategy to keep control after the 1991 war. But, even then, I think women were in all facets of government. Of course the catch was you had to be a Baathist to get ahead. Prior to 1991, for all of Iraq's drawbacks, it was as modern and advanced as any other country in the region, but Saddam was evil, controlled a lot of oil, and his socialist policies interfered with our economic ones.
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    Oh, ok. I know the place your talking about. That was that oasis place Mike Moore mentioned in his science fiction thriller.
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    Hahahah ok, that I actually laughed at out loud at. I'll refrain from using the net abbreviation.
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    How many trillions do we need to spend before this government that we've purchased should be expected to you know, treat women like humans? I guess if this government that our grandchildren will eventually finish paying for can't even be expected to apply laws fairly to American citizens (Blackwater) even though it was Americans who liberated them, we certainly can't expect them to have anything resembling a civilized policy towards their own citizens.
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    Yes, there were many female police officers, military officers, teachers, doctors, engineers, congresswomen, etc.

    Saddam, as brutal as he was, enjoyed the same degree of hatred from the Islamists and Neo-Cons, but he never gave in to the demands of Sharia rule from the regular suspects. That would have been the end of him as a ruler.

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