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    #75 Jersey

    Ummmm, wes?
    That might be construed as "biased".

    .....just saying.:eat3:

    HAPPY FRIDAY!
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    You know...I didn't think it was possible...but does wessy have an ironic button? :D

    Nice one.


    BTW, wes, it doesn't really capture the story. The matter is up for vote to amend the state constitution in November. There's no pressing need for the court to make this ruling now. Despite what Wildo says :)D), the will of the people should be heard over the voices of a few old guys in black dresses. I wouldn't be shocked to see the voters approve the ballot initiative, and that would be a much bigger victory for homosexuals than a divided court ruling. IMO.
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    #75 Jersey

    Anyone here, think that if this measure is put to a vote of the people, that gay marriage would lose?
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    It's a tough call, FTW. It is California, after all, they make as much sense as Mass does.
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    #37 Jersey

    Wasn't it already voted down in California?
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    #75 Jersey

    Yep, 61% just said "no" to gay marraige.
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    In other words I guess 61% of Californians must also be "bigot religious nutjobs" like the group that filed the petition.
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    #75 Jersey

    Here's the probloem with this..

    Once we put aside Christian vaules, what are we going to use as a standard for conduct? What will be taboo? Where will we draw the line?

    How can the court not also say that siblings should be allowed to marry? How can Polygamy still be illegal? If you are going to change the definition of marriage for one group, how can you not change it for everyone else? What about the age of consent? That will have to go to!

    Imagine the fraud that is going to come out of this, from insurance to immigration fraud!

    This is a horrible idea (changing the definition of marriage) nobody is saying that gay couples should not have the benefits of their partnerships (wait until they start paying taxes as married couples, I'm sure that they may rethink their decisions), but to redraw the norms of a society already sliding into chaos, is just plain dumb.
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    Seeing Delay and gay, I immediately thought this thread was about Tom DeLay... oops...
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    So that's what "The Hammer" was about...:cool:
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    That activist supreme court, oops I forgot there are 6 Republicans on that Court.. they cannot be called activists, brilliant jurists I mean.

    In 20 years from now, gay marriage will happen all over this country, except ALabama.
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    Probably. But shouldn't it be decided by 'The People' rather than more of your old white guys in black dresses?
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    I guess so if I did not believe in the balance of power and the constitution.. but sometimes it seems that people on this board would prefer to do without the judiciary all together...
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    I don't understand that...balance of power and the constitution bit. The three branches are supposed to be essentially equal, but the root of the power is still supposed to be the people.
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    If the people approve something and that is signed into law that is unconstitutional is that OK?? That is what makes our country great, that we have such a great time tested system..

    Hate to bring up a very senstive issue, look at the national elections in '00.. didn't the court rule against what the majority of the people wanted?? There was none of this discussion then.
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    No, but shouldn't it start with the people? As I read the stuff in Cali, they're going for an amendment to the state constitution.

    And no, the court didn't rule against the majority of the people.
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    #75 Jersey

    No way Gay marriage is the norm in twenty years, if it is, this country will be in ruin.

    I'm kinda hoping for an Obama win now, it took the diaster of Jimmy Carter to bring this country around, and I think an Obama presidency, would do the same.
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    Electoral college.

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