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  1. DonBlackmon55

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    Here it goes for the Decade...looking at Rds 1-3 primarily as these are typically considered prospects that should make the team and be strong contributors as the roster churns annually.

    32 total selected in rd 1-3
    16 on Offense
    16 on Defense

    excluding 2009 draftees....
    MAJOR IMPACT (Seymour, Light, Wilfork, Warren, Mankins) - 5
    AVG CONTRIBUTION (Graham, Warren, Branch, Meriweather, Mankins, Hobbs) - 5
    BUSTS (Klemm, Redmond, Williams, Davey, Wilson, Johnson, Watson, Hill, Scott, Kaczur, Jackson, Thomas, Wheatley, Crable, O'Connell) - 15

    Most alarming is the number of Rd #2 picks and how many turned out to be complete busts....:eek:


    2000
    2. Adrian Klemm
    3. JR Redmond

    2001
    1. R. Seymour
    2. M. Light
    3. Brock Williams

    2002
    1. D. Graham
    2. D. Branch
    3. R. Davey

    2003
    1. Ty Warren
    2. E. Wilson
    2. B. Johnson

    2004
    1. V. Wilfork
    2. B. Watson
    2. M. Hill
    3. Gus Scott

    2005
    1. L. Mankins
    3. E. Hobbs
    3. N. Kaczur

    2006
    1. L. Maroney
    2. C. Jackson
    3. D. Thomas

    2007
    1. B. Merriweather

    2008
    1. Mayo
    2. Wheatley
    3. Crable
    3. K. O'Connell

    2009.
    2. Chung
    2. Brace
    2. Butler
    2. Vollmer
    3. Tate
    3. Mackenzie


    Draft Grade for the Decade = C+
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    Something like 23 of our 53 last year were UDFA's... to provide some balance.
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    This is utterly useless and entirely arbitrary when you look at it in a vacuum.
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    Thank you.
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    kind of shocked at how many busts actually - but i dont know how that compare to other teams busts...but man - some of these names just make me cringe
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    It is what it is. Call it useeless or useful. For the # of picks PAts had this decade, the results are not that stellar. Now put back your myopic glasses
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    3 Super Bowls. 'Nuff said.
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    Why because it exposes the truth about your hero BB?

    BS, facts are facts..............

    Why draft a Patrick Chung at the top of Round 2, play him sparingly, then sprinkle him in some more next year and then when he's finally ready to play by year 3.5, we only get 1.5 years of production out of him before he moves on because of BB's idiotic strategy of trading down into the second round and not being able to sign any 2nd round draft pick for more than a 4-year deal? Chung's the projected future right ? Well why not develop him from the outset instead of waiting to see him develop by year 3 or 4. In other words play him like other teams do with players taken that high..........Screw the James Sanders and other BS experiments. Garbage, play the higher upside draft pick and develop him BB. Unreal..........

    The Jets trade up for difference makers. Revis, Sanchez (who is going to be really good like it not), Shonn Green (a trade up at the top of R3). BB can shove this trade down strategy up his tail................It's crap !!!!! Isn't it Ron Brace ? Oh Clay Matthews and James Laurinaitus, we are hardly knew yeee........
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    Its not useless.
    It is the reason why the JETS are playing in the AFC Championship next week and the PATS are sitting at home drinking beer
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    BB cant draft nor develop players. It is what it is.

    Edit: doesn't brace makes the bust list?
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    Uh huh. Maybe you can tell us all how you formulated the C+ grade, and what metric you used to get to that result?

    My uneducated guess is that you pulled it right out of your posterior.
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    True. Actually Rd 4 to UDFA had better results than Rds 1-3. Somehow coaching staff was able to coach up those players better (ie Neal, Asante, Givens etc)

    FA was mix bag (Rodney, Vrabel, AT, Colvin etc), and so were trades (Moss and Welker being the standouts)

    Rd 1-3 should have yielded are "core" players
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    I can only hope that one day you'll follow your doppelganger klinefan right off this messageboard.
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    And, please, remind us why on earth it would be useful to consider picks from rounds 1-3 only?
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    Stick to your uneducated guesses cause that's your ceiling chump:rolleyes:
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    Ohhhhh touche, you really got me there.

    So, tell us. Where did you get the C+ grade from, and how does it compare to other teams in the league?
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    #12 Jersey

    How does...

    lead to the overall...

    Oh wait, it doesn't. But it conveniently leaves out...

    All-Pro MVP QB: Tom Brady
    All-Pro CB: Asante Samuel
    All-Pro Center: Dan Koppen
    All-Pro Kicker: Stephen Gostkowski

    And other solid contributors such as Matt Cassel, Tully Banta-Cain, James Sanders, Julian Edelman, David Givens...

    But hey, any one drafted between rounds 4-7 is just luck. Obviously Bill Belichick and the boys were just throwing darts at a gigantic board of prospects and picked wherever it hit.
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    Don't fret JackBauer, the biggest Patriots rump-swab you'll ever find. The biggest BB aplogist you will ever find. Absolutely comical to disbelief !
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