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  1. Seneschal2

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    Ridiculously fast for some -- slower than expected for others. No doubt these are unofficial.

    Noteworthy:

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    Antoine Cason - [B]4.49 (I told ya'll he looked like a 4.47 guy) [/B]
    
    Brandon Flowers - 4.54 (was [U]hoping[/U] he'd time better)
    
    Charles Godfrey - 4.45 ([U]thought[/U] he was faster)
    
    Marcus Griffin - [B]4.76 (ouch)[/B]
    
    Chevis Jackson - 4.58
    
    Mike Jenkins [B]4.28 (he's still #1 on a lot of boards)
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    Leodis McKelvin 4.35.
    http://draftheadquarters.com/blog/?p=70
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    The speedy updates are greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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    Adams and Decoud and a few other SS putting up nice times in the 4.52-4.56 range.
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    Any time on Cromartie yet? Wow Jenkins lit it up, I'm surprised.
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    Waiting for Talib's 40. He just posted a 38" vertical (3rd best at the Combine so far). I'm still expecting a DB to hit 40" -- we'll see...
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    Just watched live-

    K Phillips - 4.55 - 4.54

    Porter - 4.45 - 4.49

    DRC - 4.28 - 4.34

    Talib - 4.48

    T Thomas - 4.49

    Tribble - 4.59

    Those were first runs and unofficial.
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    4.28 for Cromartie: sick. He was my favorite CB coming into the combine, and he's definitely still #1.

    edit: Beat to it.
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    Hmm...some blistering times there, now I don't know what the hell I want to happen come April...it would be lovely if we could trade down as much as possible and catch one of these guys...but Groves & Gholston are so appealing at #7.

    F**K Goodell for stealing our other #1 which we could've used to trade up or down as well :mad:
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    4.59 for Tribble? So he's now short and slow? I thought he was overrated, but Hell...he might not get drafted now.
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    Jack Williams - 4.55

    Trae Williams - 4.53

    DJ Wolfe - 4.65

    T Zbikowski - 4.52

    Those were first runs and unofficial.
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    Just keep refreshing this site
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    DRC, that's my boy, that's who I want in Patriot blue......................
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    Vertical

    Leodis McKelvin just posted a 33.5" V. He's got great feet and is certainly fast enough, but that's a below average number for a highly rated CB. Not much explosiveness there.
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    Re: Vertical

    Any word on Cromartie's vertical?
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    Re: Vertical

    Not as yet. But I won't be surprised if his vertical matches his 40 --maybe top 2 among all DBs.
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    Rodgers-Cromartie

    Make that first among all DBs -- 38.5" Vertical

    I believe this is also second best among all positions -- best being 39".
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    Aqib Talib did not look good in the one drill where they backpedle then swing their hips to both sides and explode down the field. Sloppy. They showed some film on him after that pointing out some of his weaknesses, doesn't look like he's fast enough...
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    I don't know about you, but I'm happy to know Cason ran that time. Going in we had both said he didn't look slow to us, and you said he was a 4.47 guy, while I said he's anywhere from 4.45-4.5. That's a good time for him when you consider I believe he plays faster than he times.

    Cason and Rodgers-Cromartie are getting close to sealing their placement on my list as the top two CB's for NE in this draft class. Both are tall for CB's, Cason is also strong (20 reps), and they've both got outstanding ball hawking ability & ball skills.
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    Re: Rodgers-Cromartie

    TY very much. I am not in the least bit surprised. This kid is an athletic freak. I've been harping on Rodgers-Cromartie for a while now, you guys have seen my prior posts. He's the #1 corner in my eyes. After his dominating Senior Bowl and now this jaw-dropping combine. This kid is a top 14 pick. Now the question is how far can we afford to trade down and still have him available.
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    I can only hope the Pats trade down and take either Cromatie or Cason and somehow get Groves as well.

    But Denver at 12 seems like a nice destination for us.

    New Orleans really does need a CB at I believe 10. I'm hoping Jenkins or McKelvin appear to be the #1 corner overall so they can take him. Denver needs some DL so they'd be happy to trade in front of Cinci(who also needs a DL). According to the draft value chart, we could get their no. 12 for our no. 7 and their second.

    The value for trading the two seconds is a first in the 19 - 22 range.

    Although, who knows how likely this is to happen.
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    40 times corrected...

    Assuming that NFL.com has the official times, they finally just posted some:

    Rodgers-Cromartie is now listed as 4.33 (up from 4.28)

    Tracy Porter - 4.37 (down from 4.45)
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    Not to mention he's got off-field issues. The Pats won't touch him with a hot poker. DRC and Cason as sedman indicated are the two they'll focus on.
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    Nope.

    IMHO, Cason and someone else. I'm confident Cason and another would be ranked top two (in any order) on the Pats board. The other could be a first, second, or even third rounder.
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    4.52 is a good time for Zbikowski. I want to see his short area quickness, and agility test though (I'm recording todays combine drills and will watch the tape later).

    Few notes/opinions:

    Brandon Flowers is one heck of a physical little dude, but he is just that, little. I would like to know his vert, as he'll need a pretty significant vertical leap to make up for his lack of height.

    NE already has a 5'9.2" CB on the team in Ellis Hobbs, so it's obvious they are willing to take a shorter CB. But, you've got to remember some things about Hobbs. He was a total gym rat, and actually an athletic specimen for a guy his size. His vertical (42 inches) was off the charts, he can bench press a ton, posted a 4.08 short shuttle, 1.57 10 split, 10'4" broad jump (11'1" at his pro day), and a 4.45 forty (4.38 at his pro day). The guy was a little beast, lol!

    That slower forty time could bump Flowers down a bit (especially with so much depth at the position).

    In the past I had some interest in Quintin Demps and Josh Barrett at Safety, so it's good to see them performing well at the combine. Either could be decent early second day (remember they changed the draft schedule) options for NE.
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    Demps is my guy at either the #2 or the early #3. Really, really like him.
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    Yea, I'm thinking the third round could be a nice spot to pick up a good/decent Safety, and Demps could be a nice option somewhere in that range.

    Really quick overview:

    Quintin Demps -- S -- UTEP -- 5'11" 206lbs -- 4.38 forty -- 16 reps at 225lbs

    Played in 47 career games posting 275 tackles, 24 PBU's, and 17 INT's returned for a total of 404 yards. He also had some return duties.
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    He returned kicks and punts. 15th in the nation in punt returning last year. Very versatile DB as well.
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    damn i think cromartie may have run fast enough to not be picked by the chargers at 27

    that would have been a nice future cb tandem cro and cro
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    I'm counting a dozen sub 4.4-forty times. That's insane. That said, I still don't think we can wait until the end of the second round to take one. I think in 2006, 13 corners were selected in the first two rounds. If we come out with the 13th best CB in this draft to start opposite Hobbs, we may have some trouble ahead.
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