Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by kurtinelson, Mar 25, 2007.
From GBN Report:
Think those 40 times will scare most teams off?
The 40's and the level of competition, but those change of direction numbers are sweet.
Those numbers are the fastest in the combine.
This guy is one hell of a route runner.
This guy will never have break away speed but if you need someone to get open then Ball is your man. With numbers like that he's just improved his stock 10 fold.
Maybe it's just me but i think we should take him with our 5th round comp pick i think he would be a great target for Brady
I've been a fan for awhile now. On ESPN I posted probably about three different threads featuring his scouting reports, and bios. I think he could be the next sleeper pick, who turns into a productive pro. I'd probably spend a 6th round comp on him.
I don't think he'll last till our 6th round comp picks
4.7 40's from a wide receiver. Come on now, that's considered slow for a linebacker! He's going to drop. He might be productive in the nfl yet but those times will drop him for sure.
Anquan Boldin ran something close to a 4.7
Yeah and Anquan Boldin was also injured when he ran those 4.7 40s. What is Ball's excuse?
Listen, I just said the Ball kid might be able to be productive in the NFL, but those 40 times would drop anyone in the draft. To expect otherwise is unrealistic.
I like the guy so much I almost wish he goes to a team that he has a chance to succeed. Imagine this kid fighting with 7 or 8 other Wr's on our team? I'd draft him with a 6th or 7th and put him on the practice squad. It would be nice if he could fill in when Caldwell and Gaffney are gone. Who knows maybe he will be a stud?
See I'd have no problem with expending a late round pick as a flyer on a kid like Ball. It is with the earlier picks where I'd seek/demand more athleticism.
Jesus calm down I was just saying
Here's the closing from his Scouts Inc. Scouting report:
"Ball displays exceptional hands and he is an outstanding route-runner, which is why he has a chance to contribute as a sub-package receiver in the NFL. However, Ball is essentially a possession receiver prospect with marginal speed and a lean frame. He will struggle to make the transition to the NFL, where he won't be able to consistently separate like he did at the DI-AA level in college. As such, Ball projects as a late-round pick in 2007."
Expecting Ball to be around for those six round comps is not out of the question, and he could even go later.
I've just seen a couple of full 7 round mocks that have him going early 6th round and just about in a spot where our 5th round comp pick would be i'm just saying.
People say you can't teach speed but you sure can work at it and i'm betting he'll get that stright line speed and for the record he is still coming offf a minor injury in one of the east-west games (in which he went 3 catchs for 90 yards)
Jerry Rice ran simliar 40s. This kid, I think will be the real deal.
I am a UNH alum and have seen David Ball play since his sophomore season. He has decent height, good leaping ability, runs great routes, and has great hands. He will never be a deep threat, but he can be a really solid possession receiver. He catches the ball with tight coverage better than any college receiver I've ever seen.
In the local paper here in NH, they reported that his average 40 time was 4.63 and his best was 4.59. Not sure where the 4.7 is coming from, this is the only place I've seen that.
Note: He is also coming off a hamstring injury, and is NOT at 100%. I think his vertical leap is usually better than 33", I always thought it was closer to 40". I also think he can run in the mid-4.5's on a good day. And he's going to participate in another Pro Day on March 30th.
He was also the top receiver in the East-West Shrine game and had a spectacular leaping 50 yard catch. Check this one out:
Yeah, I like him, hope we take a flyer on him in round 6. Maybe this years Marques Colston ?
No, Jerry Rice ran 4.53 and 4.55 and set all kinds of all time receiving records. So although he had average NFL speed, he was a tall possession receiver par excellence.
we better not talk about him too much though remeber when everyone had Pat Willis near our pick then we started talking and he jumper like 10 spots we have too much power i think LOL
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