Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by BRiZ, Sep 9, 2008.
Matt Cassel = no playoffs.
Kevin OConnell = playoffs but no SB.
Daunte Culpepper = SB Championship.
Briz = clueless
End of thread.
gotta admit that was good.
This coming from someone with a Chad Jackson avatar......
You left out Chad Jackson = SB championship......you need his credentials to understand his post
you beat me to it
please will you guys get off Chad Jackson, everyone was pretty shocked when he was cut and alot of people wanted big things out of him. I still think he is going to sign somewhere else and be good, and we will regret letting him go. If it doesnt happen then i will glady admit i was a complete fool and totally missed on Jackson, but geez can we at least see him play a couple of seasons in the NFL first?
Seems like a series of logical and fact-based assumptions. After all, you guys all saw how the still-effective Culpepper revitalized the moribund Oakland and Miami franchises.
Oakland and Miami have no WRs or offensive lines, you actually think Culpepper would play the way he did here than he did in those places? Look how Randy Moss played in Oakland...and look what he did when he came to the Pats.
Terry Bradshaw, 4 Superbowls. Let's get him!
For the record, this thread is borderline mindless troll spamming...
I hear his phone is ringing off the hooks.
And how was Culpepper's last season in Minnesota? Seriously, this thread is ridiculous. Culpepper has exactly the same number of Super Bowl victories as Cassel.
No, I certainly agree he'd be coming into a better situation. But for those non-conspiracy theorists among us, I'm forced to assume that there are good football reasons that Culpepper is unemployed in a league in which Kyle Orton and JT O'Sullivan have starting jobs.
I'm just not convinced that a guy no one wanted to sign all summer is somehow going to guarantee us a SB championship, as you state rather matter-of-factly in your original post.
sorta like Dillons last season in Cincy, everyone upset because they arent winning.
3 different teams, not just 1.
You'll get flamed, but I'm on board with getting in C-Pep now so he is ready if need be at the end of the season. We have an amazing O-Line, except against teams like the Giants. Part of it was Brady being able to step out of the way at just the right time like he had eyes on the sides of his head, but part of it was the line just being skilled. C-Pep's problem was that he didn't have a great line, and he wasn't recovered from his knee injuries (speaking of Tom Brady ::gulp:. He's far enough away from those surgeries now, and he still has a very strong arm. And, he knows about throwing to Randy Moss-- who is our franchise player now.
I'm not giving up on Cassel at all, but we should prepare for the worst and have a great backup plan ready to plug in if he flops. Bring in C-Pep and have him start learning the playbook and studying our practices. What could it hurt? You know he'd say yes to coming here.
He's stunk in his last 3 seasons at 3 different teams, not just 1 team.
the same reason basically nobody would touch Moss because of seeing him play in Oakland. You got to see Culpepper fail in Miami and Oakland, who would want to sign him?
Because C-Pep is the past. The Bears and the 49ers and the Dolphins and the Ravens and the Raiders and the rest are about the future. But we are not about the future. We are about right this second. We are about the past. We are about a veteran Moss and Welker and Bruschi and Vrabel and Harrison and on and on-- all guys from the NFL's past, not its future.
his last season in Minny was similar to Dillons season in Cincy, Moss quit on the team, not Culpeppers fault. Then after his injury he went to Miami and Oakland of all places, not exactly where you want to go to impress the ladies. Im not saying Culpepper is the player he once was, i look at it similar to Moss, Moss still isnt the player he once was but you put him in the right situation on a great team and look what happens. Culpepper would play MUCH better here in NE than he did in Miami and Oakland, he has TONS more experience than Cassel, plus he will be reunited with his buddy Moss and both of them are hungry for a ring are you kidding me??? Sign him for a 1 year deal to fill in for Brady and he will play so hard for a ring.
No one ever really doubted Moss' talent to still be an effective player in this league, and his situation was never comparable to Culpepper's present one. I mean, the guy was forced to retire by e-mail last week because he was so frustrated no one would sign him. Unless you truly believe he's been blacklisted or something stupid like that, I have to say I trust football people who make that judgment.
That's not to say he's not a better option that Simms or Ratay or any of the other garbage, but given that he doesn't know the system, I'm not sure he's a safer bet to get wins right now than Matt Cassel.
Hey, don't apologize for your avatar. The genius Bill Belichick thought more of Chad Jackson than Marcus McNeill, Greg Jennings, Devin Hester, Maurice Jones-Drew, Tarvaris Jackson, Jerious Norwood, LenDale White, Marques Colston, Mark Anderson, and Antoine Bethea. He should apologize.
Hey now, let's not get carried away.
not true there was tons of people speculating that Moss was washed up, not the player he once was. Even Art Shell the former coach of the Raiders said Moss was on his last legs. His production and total lack of effort in Oakland fooled people, but people still thought it. The Pats knew Moss wasnt washed up, they knew it was the situation he was in.
I just have no faith in Cassel at all, hes an undrafted free agent type player who is now the starting QB of the best team in the league. I do not think from seeing him play that he has what it takes to win us a championship.
Moss was never in any danger of not finding work. If the Patriots hadn't taken a chance on him, someone else would have. I found Culpepper's situation to be very different, any team could have had him this summer, and none did. That speaks for itself.
well put thx
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