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  1. Belichicknumber1

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    Hey guys long time lerker here but i have to ask this question. What is wrong with this guys knee that is scaring everyone away from this guy. He was talked about to be number 1 over all now he is on the board in the second round. Would you guys not want to draft him sit him a year then unleash him? Watching vids of this guy 75% is so impressive. Please hit me with your thoughts and tell me what is exactly wrong with this guys knee. Thanks all pats posters keep up the good work.

    Quick edit. This interview was april 7th. I find him to be humble. Now i must think he is pissed and really wants to prove people wrong. Could be scary.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-aTdaKyE5c
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    he had one year of amazing production, based on the one year of production, if he had no medical issues, he would be a top 5 pick, but apparently his knee is in a degenerative state and might need micro-fracture surgery at some point which is the type of thing which puts you on IR or could end your career early, couple with the fact that he would be a conversion to 3-4 OLB in alot of systems which by itself can result in a bust.

    Teams dont want to take picks who this kind of bust potential, especially in the first round.

    However, teams like the patriots who stockpile picks and have many bullets to use might look at Bowers differantly, while still a risk, in the second round you dont spend the same money on a player, if the player busts for whatever reason all you lose is the pick.

    i think Bowers would be the ultimate value pick for the patriots at this point, if they are comfortable they can keep his knee in good shape and he is a good enough for them, they might take the risk.
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    Thanks for the quick reply. Can you or anyone else tell me if any other professional athlete has had this knee injury? Would like to try to get an idea on what it is.
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    Mark Ingram was rumored to have a similar knee problem, a degenerative knee issue which could shorten his career. but ingram plays a position where the transition is easy, and runningbacks tend to have a shorter shelf life anyway.

    i personally think that selecting mark ingram in the first round was dumb, runningbacks have become so de-valued in the NFL because it is more of a passing league.

    Team doctors will know what the true story on Da'quan Bowers knee is, i guess enough of them figured they might as well make the safer pick.

    if the patriots have any faith in Bowers knee at all, they should take a good look at him in the second round, the patriots are in a position where they can take a risk on a player like bowers, some other teams are not.
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    I am Bowers biggest fan on this site and I've mocked him to the Pats since my first post here. Obviously his knee is more serious than I thought, but in the second round I have no reason not to take a chance on the guy. I've talked about his fit in the system many times and I truely believe he would be a great fit. I completely understand why we didn't take him in the 1st if his knee injury is that serious, but at 33 I think he is absolutely worth the risk. Even if this injury causes him to lose some explosion, I think he would be a perfect candidate to bulk up and move to 3-4 DE. He has perfect two-gap tehnique, and has the size and frame to carry the bulk. In the end I don't know how often we get a chance at an elite, top 5 talent in the draft, so I would take the risk at 33. Unless we can get a kings ransom in a trade, which I doubt, I would keep the pick and make Da'Quan Bowers the 33 pick on the 2011 NFL draft.

    And just to give you an idea of how good a kid he is, after the first round he posted on twitter:
    "1 down 6 more to go, keep grinding it ain't over til it's over"

    This guy is going to be a special player in the NFL, I just hope its in New England.
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    Before the draft on NFL network they were talking about him and from what they heard about his knee they said they wouldn't pick him in the 1st round.

    It must be a pretty serious problem if he has dropped so much.
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    we did it last year with Gronk and that didnt work out too bad, we'll trade #33 for sure but worth the pick if still there when we get the 2nd round pick
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    Why hasn't he been selected yet? I heard he has knee problems, but there must be something else, right? I mean, this is a guy that was projected to be the number 1 overall pick a month or so ago. Everyone wants a pass rusher, well how about Mr. Bowers?
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    One team's doctors rejected him. Twice.
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    Hey you guys can rip me all day, we need a pass rusher and he's a pass rusher. If his knee is really that torn up then I don't want anything to do with him.
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    Tampa and at least a few others cleared him (Browns?). Gronk? Tate? 15 sacks is too good to pass up. We'll get other picks in Trade. Let's take this kid. He will have a huge chip.
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    His knee problems are of the type that can reoccur, but i would spend a late 2nd on him if hes still there. Even if he's a one contract player the team might be able to get 2-3-4 years out him. He has top ten physical talent, so he's likely not to be a bust.
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    He had surgery to repair a torn miniscus back in February, the problem is, that he ran a slow forty time at his private Pro Day (4.9) and was wholey unimpressive by all accounts. Add that to his "one year wonder" status and the fact that many people think that he has arthitis that is only going to get worse over time and with wear, and many teams have taken him off their draft boards.

    Boy, if everybody is wrong about him, somebody is going to get quite a steal in Bowers, and a steal with a GIANT chip on his shoulder
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    Hey let's say someone drafts him in the second rnd and he's a big time impact player, then after 3-4 years his career is over cause of his knee. Would you call him a second round bust? I wouldn't if i got 3 or 4 years of great DE play. Its more likely he'll succeed than your average second day pick.
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    It would certainly save the hassle and cost of that first contract after the rookie deal expires. Value at both ends of the deal!
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    I want to trade #33, but if he's still around for the next pick, Pats should take him. They have enough picks to roll the dice.
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    My understanding is that he has a degenerative arthritic condition. It's not like having a torn ACL where surgery can clear it up; about the only longterm answer is knee replacement. In addition it's more likely to flare up by playing the game of football. The bottom line is that his career is expected by many to be no more than five years at most, and most teams are unwilling to spend a first (or perhaps second) round pick on a player that won't be around for his second contract.

    At some point I would say that yes, he is worth the risk - but at #33? Probably not - but if he's still there at #60 then it might be worth considering.
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    I'd like to see the Pats trade a few spots down from 33 and take him.
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