Cutler looks like crap

[Rob0729]

THen why have we never seen a NE player do it? We had several situations in 2007 where they ran they put the ball into the end zone when they could have eaten more time.

Because maybe unlike Stokely, they weren't as open as Stokely were. Or maybe they weren't scoring a TD that would put them up by six with only 13 seconds left in the game. If the Pats played did it with a 1:30 left in the game and the Pats were up by two, those two seconds wouldn't mean much. And just because Belichick would teach players to be aware of that, doesn't mean they would think of it in a real situation. Every situation is different and Stokely had the time to scan the field to make sure he had a ten to twenty yard coushin from the defender and time was at a premium with less than 20 second left.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

THen why have we never seen a NE player do it? We had several situations in 2007 where they ran they put the ball into the end zone when they could have eaten more time.

Don't remind me... Thing is it's the situation. Denver's offense had been as anemic as Cincy's but that was out of character for Cincy and they woke up late. Reminds me of the Pats-Rams. Avoid mistakes like turnovers, keep it close, get the ball back last. 11 seconds left time for just one play following a fielded kickoff. 14-15 seconds leaves time for 2. And he clearly ran off at least 3-4 additional seconds.

 

[unoriginal]

THen why have we never seen a NE player do it? We had several situations in 2007 where they ran they put the ball into the end zone when they could have eaten more time.

Maybe they didn't think about it? I doubt it's a coaching point of emphasis.

Belichick's applicable soundbite in this situation would be "we'll look at the tape and see what the player saw and evaluate the decision from there."

When McDaniels looks at the tape and sees what Stokley saw, what leads you to conclude he would be upset with what Stokley did? So far all you've mentioned is what didn't occur.

 

[Rob0729]

Cutler looks like crap but Rogers isn't exactly covering himself in glory. Too much time sitting on the bench watching Brett's antics... It does rub off. He's playing like he has to beat the crap out of Cutler instead of just letting Cutler do that to himself.

Rodgers isn't playing great, but at least he isn't making costly mistakes. The defenses on both sides are doing a great job. The biggest difference between Rodgers and Cutler is that Rodgers isn't making risky, inaccurate throws.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Rodgers isn't playing great, but at least he isn't making costly mistakes. The defenses on both sides are doing a great job. The biggest difference between Rodgers and Cutler is that Rodgers isn't making risky, inaccurate throws.

Rogers is geting his ass rushed off because his RT is inept beyond belief.

 

[Rob0729]

Maybe they didn't think about it? I doubt it's a coaching point of emphasis.

Belichick's applicable soundbite in this situation would be "we'll look at the tape and see what the player saw and evaluate the decision from there."

When McDaniels looks at the tape and sees what Stokley saw, what leads you to conclude he would be upset with what Stokley did? So far all you've mentioned is what didn't occur.

I disagree that it isn't a point of emphasis for the Pats. Belichick does preach to his players to know their situations including the clock and other situations. Does Belichick teach that if you have 16 seconds left in the game and about to go into the endzone to put your team up by either 5, six, or seven points and running to stop to get before the end zone to get an extra couple of second and then run in? I doubt it, too specific of a situation. But he does teach them similiar things.

BTW, wasn't there a game last year where either Morris or Faulk were about to go into the end zone and then downed it right outside the endzone because being tackled before the TD and allow the offense four shots at the endzone was better to eat up the clock? I remember something like that last year.

 

[letekro]

The sooner the Bears realize that Forte should be the focus of the offense, the better off they'll be.

 

[Patspsycho]

Looks like the Bears are coming to life.. that was a great trick play, going deep on a 4th and inches.

 

[Rob0729]

Looks like the Bears are coming to life.. that was a great trick play, going deep on a 4th and inches.

It helps when the Packers blow the coverage. Cutler does have a cannon of an arm. So if you give him time and a wide open receiver down the field, he can do damage. It is when he gets rattled when he can make the big mistakes.

 

[Kontradiction]

Well an otherwise boring game got a whole lot more interesting...

 

[spacecrime]

I disagree that it isn't a point of emphasis for the Pats. Belichick does preach to his players to know their situations including the clock and other situations. Does Belichick teach that if you have 16 seconds left in the game and about to go into the endzone to put your team up by either 5, six, or seven points and running to stop to get before the end zone to get an extra couple of second and then run in? I doubt it, too specific of a situation. But he does teach them similiar things.

BTW, wasn't there a game last year where either Morris or Faulk were about to go into the end zone and then downed it right outside the endzone because being tackled before the TD and allow the offense four shots at the endzone was better to eat up the clock? I remember something like that last year.

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It was Faulk IIRC. He gave himself up on about the two yard line. Similar situation to stokely except gave the Pats chance to run even more time off clock.

As far as the comment about BB always going for the points, remember he gave up an intentional safety once, giving up points he didn't have to because the situation called for it.

 

[Rob0729]

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It was Faulk IIRC. He gave himself up on about the two yard line. Similar situation to stokely except gave the Pats chance to run even more time off clock.

As far as the comment about BB always going for the points, remember he gave up an intentional safety once, giving up points he didn't have to because the situation called for it.

Thanks for the confirmation. I knew there was a similiar case by the Pats. Just couldn't remember which RB it was.

 

[Disco Volante]

226 yards, a TD and the lead.

Things looking a lot better for Cutler right now.

 

[maverick4]

I think Albert Breer tweeted best:

Cutler never was and never will be a great QB unless he has great talent around him to hide his clear and obvious weaknesses.

Not surprised in the least that this thread deviated in the last page to compliment the Broncos' Stokley for running across the endzone line.

This thread is an under-handed attempt to support McDaniels, whether it be anti-Cutler or pro-Broncos, and it's pretty weak.

I have been watching the entire Bears game, and Cutler's receivers are horrible. Hester is their best WR and he's more of a return specialist, very raw at receiver and doesn't run routes right. His other receivers/TE's give up on plays before they're even over.

I'm sure the Broncos would have done better today with Cutler, than Orton who threw into quadruple coverage on that "lucky" winning play today.

 

[unoriginal]

I disagree that it isn't a point of emphasis for the Pats. Belichick does preach to his players to know their situations including the clock and other situations. Does Belichick teach that if you have 16 seconds left in the game and about to go into the endzone to put your team up by either 5, six, or seven points and running to stop to get before the end zone to get an extra couple of second and then run in? I doubt it, too specific of a situation. But he does teach them similiar things.

I did not mean to imply that Belichick tells his players to pay no attention to the clock or situation when I said he probably doesn't drill his backs on wasting time on breakaway play late in the 4th.

BTW, wasn't there a game last year where either Morris or Faulk were about to go into the end zone and then downed it right outside the endzone because being tackled before the TD and allow the offense four shots at the endzone was better to eat up the clock? I remember something like that last year.

It was Faulk IIRC. He gave himself up on about the two yard line. Similar situation to stokely except gave the Pats chance to run even more time off clock.

As far as the comment about BB always going for the points, remember he gave up an intentional safety once, giving up points he didn't have to because the situation called for it.

Pretty sure that was Brian Westbrook against Dallas in December 2007. What game did Kevin Faulk do this in?

 

[Kontradiction]

Jesus. What a crap call by the Bears. Up two, defense playing great, at your own 35, and you try to pull a stunt like that? That was needless. They could have punted and let their defense punish Rodgers a little bit more.

Lovie might get bailed out courtesy of Clay Matthews though...

 

[Kontradiction]

Not surprised in the least that this thread deviated in the last page to compliment the Broncos' Stokley for running across the endzone line.

This thread is an under-handed attempt to support McDaniels, whether it be anti-Cutler or pro-Broncos, and it's pretty weak.

I have been watching the entire Bears game, and Cutler's receivers are horrible. Hester is their best WR and he's more of a return specialist, very raw at receiver and doesn't run routes right. His other receivers/TE's give up on plays before they're even over.

I'm sure the Broncos would have done better today with Cutler, than Orton who threw into quadruple coverage on that "lucky" winning play today.

Uh... no. This thread is about Cutler looking like crap, which is why it's titled, "Cutler looks like crap". And he DOES look like crap. Three picks to one TD. He has played better in the second half though, so should we change the title to, "Cutler kind of looks like crap"?

 

[Patspsycho]

Uh... no. This thread is about Cutler looking like crap, which is why it's titled, "Cutler looks like crap". And he DOES look like crap. Three picks to one TD. He has played better in the second half though, so should we change the title to, "Cutler kind of looks like crap"?

should be titled "Lovie kind of looks like crap"

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Fake punt from deep in your own territory.

Brilliant!

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Uh... no. This thread is about Cutler looking like crap, which is why it's titled, "Cutler looks like crap". And he DOES look like crap. Three picks to one TD. He has played better in the second half though, so should we change the title to, "Cutler kind of looks like crap"?

Probably a better change would be to Cutler looks like crap and imagine what he'd look like if GB's offense wasn't looking entirely inept, too.