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Current Pro Bowl votes : Peyton Manning 377,000 votes; Tom Brady 345,000

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    Peyton is the Pro Bowl’s top vote getter, so far | ProFootballTalk
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    Well, Manning did get an extra million free pizzas for everyone. That's gotta help.
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    I'm surprised Brady is second overall because every other fanbase hates him so much lol.
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    Manning is god
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    Is this an important issue here at PatsColtsFans ?
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    i thought it was 2 million?

    peyton is getting the sympathy vote - coming back from injury and all. it's a great story and he'll probably end up getting MVP too although Rodgers deserves it more.
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    Who cares.

    The Broncos players will actually be in the ProBrowl.... we'll be in the other "bowl"
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    Is anybody honestly surprised? With his first step on the football field in Week 1 this season, Manning had already wrapped up CPOY, MVP, and a Pro Bowl nod.
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    That would happen only if the presence of Manning improved the offense so much that they would be considered a serious playoff contender. Obviously, that has happened and Manning is one of several reasonable candidates for MVP.

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    My respect for Manning, already high, has grown this year. He got off to a slow start but has really put it together. His long ball is shot but he is smart enough to know it and work around it. He is easier to like without those fake goody goody Colts fans.
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    He's about as reasonable a candidate for MVP as Matt Ryan or JJ Watt.
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    Peyton has pretty stiff competition in AP for CPOY. A RB coming off a late season ACL tear coming back like this is unheard of. He's coming on strong in the MVP race, too (OPOY anyway, we all know RBs don't win MVP). 629 yards, 5 TDs in the last 4 games at 7.7 yards a pop. Three of those games against solid defenses. 182 yds at 10.7 ypc vs. Seattle. 123 yds at 8.2 ypc vs. Tampa (who are #1 in ypc allowed). The dude is tearing teams apart right now.
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    That may be true, but his play has actually backed it up. He's leading the league in passer rating and yards per attempt, and has turned a team that wasn't that good offensively last year into a top 3 offense. You really can't reasonably say that he isn't on the short list of MVP candidates.
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    Not denying that he's a fortified MVP candidate right now. My argument is essentially that he could be playing like ass and still be an MVP candidate because, well, he's Peyton Manning.
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    I'm not surprised. Manning's having a better season, in my opinion, so he definitely deserves it.
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    Here are Cowherds MVP Candidates in order

    Peyton
    Big Ben
    Luck
    Aaron Rodgers

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    WTF......... no AP? no JJ Watt?

    What has luck done to even be considered, 8 TDs in home games and ONLY 2 in road games this year, that makes it 10 TDs for a total of 9 INTs??????????

    I am very glad that no one and i mean no one is picking Brady for MVP ...
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    I agree. He is more likeable when Irsay is not tweeting about him twice a day.
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    I am shocked at this selection...Big Ben??? Really? I don't get that one.
    I know the Falcons lost last game but I still think Matt Ryan should be up there with Rogers. Manning is playing well considering he was injured last year but alot of votes he wil get are because of who he is. I don't think he is anymore deserving that Rogers or Ryan at this point!

    And I agree, I would rather see Brady win SB MVP;)
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    Agree completely with this point, Broncos defense deserves as much credit as their offense for the season they are having.Matt Ryan is being overlooked by a lot of mediots for the MVP consideration, They should change the name to MPP = Most Popular Player award.
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    With Roethlisberger going on the shelf, the QB race in the AFC is a 3 person race, with Brady, Manning and Schaub The vote is what it is, and Manning always has the edge, but it shouldn't matter in the end. Both Manning and Brady should be voted in.
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    What has luck done to be considered? Taken a 2-14 team....in a rebuilding year....and made them PO contenders? MVP means "most valuable player" as in....the player who is most valuable to his team. He has 5 rushing TDs in addition to his passing. Aside from Wayne and Brown he is playing with a bunch of young guys on offense.....in a new system...without their head coach.

    He's had several comebacks already, including two long drives to win in OT in Tenn. He's been great on 3rd down conversions and he's done nothing but get better all year.

    I don't think he sctually has a shot at MVP but asking what he's done to even be considered is silly.
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    Only reason Indy was 2-14 was terrible QB play, they were still a talented team. Curtis Painter just sucked REALLY bad. I hate when people say the Pats went 11-5 without Brady and the Colts went 2-14 without Manning (and now Luck) all that shows is that Cassel was much better than Painter.
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    You hate it because you're a Brady fan. The Fact is the Colts were 2-14 without Manning and the Pats 11-5 without Brady.

    Cassel is a mediocre QB at best, but he had a D, a great offense, and he had a great coach. Caldwell had no business being an NFL head coach. Sucks that Mannings final two seasons as a Colt were under that knucklehead.
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    Most people who watch football realize that statistical excellence is required to be voted MVP. 79.1 QB rating puts him out of the discussion, convincingly. He's got a good shot at OROY, though.
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    Patriots fans have seen the impact of QB changes twice under BB. The first time was when Brady took over for a QB who'd been 5-13 in his last 18 games and proceeded to go 14-3 the rest of the season.

    Qb play is the most important part of football today. Manning's impact on Indianapolis was being overplayed, though. That was a team that was in decline even before he got hurt. They'd dropped from 14 wins to 10, and were probably looking at an 8-10 win season even with Manning. Manning to a Cassel (2008)-level QB would probably only have been about a 2-4 game difference. Hell, Orlovsky managed to go 2-3.
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    They weren't in decline, they were coming off a 14-2 season. Did you watch the Colts in 2010? At one point the backfield was Javaris James, Mike Hart and Dom Rhodes, and Manning was throwing to Jacob Tamme, Brody Eldridge and the immortal Blair White. They still were a few points from having their usual 12 wins.

    The Colts weren't anymore in decline in 2010 than the Pats were in 2002, 2005 or 2009. they had a down year. The arguments here kill me....the Colts were in decline......but except for not having a QB they were still a talented team in 2011?

    As long as Manning plays at a high level, and he still is......... he just turned around the Broncos O, the Colts would have been contenders and would win 10-12 games.
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    Re: Current Prow Bowl votes : Peyton Manning 377,000 votes; Tom Brady 345,000

    Huh, Pats fans (and ESPN) are always going on about how QB ratings dont mean much. He has one of the highest QBR in the NFL.

    And.....it's not the MIS award. It's MVP. If you want to just say the guy with the best stats wins change the name of he award.

    And again, I said Luck doesn't have a shot at MVP, it will go to Manning, Brees or Rodgers. Personally I would give it to Brees, no D or head coach and they're still hanging around .500 and PO contention.
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    Belichick and McDaniels used Cassel to play to hig strengths, it's no coincidence that when Weiss went to KC as the OC for the year that Cassel was a probowler (he outplayed Manning that year) I'll give you that Caldwell sucked as a coach. If Orlovsky started from the beginning of the season instead of the end the Colts probably go 8-8, and Orlovsky isn't good either, that's how bad Painter is.
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    Boy, did he ever outplay Manning....what with well over 200 fewer attempts....a completion percentage 8 points lower, 6 fewer TDs......around 1600 fewer yards....

    The only thing Cassel did better than Manning in 2010 was 10 less INTs, but he was a dink and dunk QB on a team that had almost as many yards on the ground as it did through the air.

    Only on a Pats board would anyone claim Cassel outplayed Manning in 2010.
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