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  1. mgteich

    mgteich PatsFans.com Veteran PatsFans.com Supporter

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    We don't need experts. We know we're the best ever. And we don't care what anyone else thinks. After all, we posters know much more about football than anyone else in the world, expert perhaps for bill and scotty. sure!

     
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    We don't need experts. We know we're the best ever. And we don't care what anyone else thinks. After all, we posters know much more about football than anyone else in the world, expert perhaps for bill and scotty. sure!

     
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    The "46" Defense is a Cover 1, Man pressure defense.

    Play Cover 1 against the Pats receivers=100 points.

    The Bears offense would get shut down.

    Pats 40, Bears 7
     
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    #12 Jersey

    I hate these topics.
     
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    The Bears "applied the kind of pressure than no one had seen before".

    The Bears also were shredded by Marino & the Fins' offense.

    The Bears didn't have a stellar offense.

    Pats 31, Bears 17
     
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    Pats=about 70
    Bears=pretty close to 0

    The Pats would be much bigger, much faster, and they'd spread out the field on offense and chew up the 46 D.

    Really, just about any team in today's NFL would crush the 85-86 Bears. Too much size and speed, and better tactics.
     
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    Sure, against a traditional Pro 2 WR offense. Spread them out and rip them. Man coverage exposes inferior athletes.

    Face it, kid. You are clueless.
     
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    TripleOption Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    First off, I don't need an NFL expert. NO ONE runs the 46 as a defense anymore. Why? It's unsound against current NFL offenses.

    If you need one, the topic was discussed on one of the pregame shows and it was agreed that the Pats would kill them; as pointed out earlier in the thread the Dolphins beat them passing with personnel inferior to this Pats team, not to mention inferior scheme.
     
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    TripleOption Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    Perry wasn't much of a pass rusher and "Mongo" played interior DT at 264 lbs. You're a joke.
     
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    TripleOption Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    Were the Giants DT's 260 lbs?

    You are so goddamn stupid, it's not even worth addressing with you. The Bears scheme and personnel were based around a 46 Defense, which would last one game in todays NFL.

    I have forgotten more football than you will ever know. Nice how you come out of the woodwork to gloat and talk tough. What a loser you are. This fall, I'll be coaching football while you sit on you a** and watch on TV.
     
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    TripleOption Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    Wow, a moron Bears fan and an idiot Chargers fan agree, how touching.

    If either one of you sorry ass teams got to the Super Bowl, do you think they would have done better?

    If you do, you're even stupider than I thought...
     
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    it's too simplistic to just say a passing team kills the 46 defense, b/c I think the Bears would adjust. you also can't compare todays players to 20 years ago, b/c guys today are obv way bigger, faster, stronger, etc. you need to look at them in their era and compare

    Including playoffs:

    85 Bears- 547 points scored, 208 pts allowed
    07 Pats- 655 pts scored, 323 pts allowed

    each team was 18-1, but the Bears peaked in the playoffs

    Edge, Bears, particularly in Pythagorean Wins
     
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    No, it's not too simplistic. Buddy Ryan was notoriously stubborn. His personnel and scheme was based on a Cover 1, pressure defense. He would have stuck with the gameplan as he got ripped. He stuck with the 46 in Philly, but it was never the same.
     
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    kind of reminds me of a coach from last night :(

    and still, I don't think matching the teams up on paper head to head is the best way to compare, b/c the game has changed so much.

    I think it's just better to look at how 1 team did in their era and compare it to how another team did in another era.

    and objectively looking at it, the Bears 18-1 has to look a bit better than ours.
     
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    I don't know how much input BB has into the offensive playcalling. I didn't see any draws underneath Osi, or protection adjustments. McDaniel was probably in over his head.

    Don't forget, the Bears played a very overmatched and intimidated Pats team in that Super Bowl.
     
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