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Ruud's hardly a starter. Who beleives that he has better than a 25% shot to even make the team?


Changes -
- Added FA Robert Ortiz (WR) = a former CFL player / practice squad (Seattle).
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* - 2008 rookie draftee
** - previous year practice squad or waiver pickup who did not play..
*** - 2008 signed undrafted rookie

postion: - starting player or players where applicable. {backups who are currently in contention for real playing time at the position (backups' other possible position or positions)}
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OFFENSE:

QB: - 12 Tom Brady {16 Matt Cassel | 5 Kevin O'Connell*| 7 Matt Gutierrez**}
RB: - 39 Laurence Maroney {34 Sammy Morris | 33 Kevin Faulk}
FB: - 44 Heath Evans {38 Kyle Eckel}
WR: - 81 Randy Moss| 83 Wes Welker {10 Jabar Gaffney | 17 Chad Jackson | 15 Kelley Washington | 88 Sam Aiken | xx Robert Ortiz**}
TE: - 84 Benjamin Watson {86 David Thomas | 87 Marcus Pollard | 82 Stephen Spach}
Left Tackle: - 72 Matt Light {65 Wesley Britt (RT)}
Left Guard: - 70 Logan Mankins {71 Russ Hochstein (C/RG)}
Center: - 67 Dan Koppen
Right Guard: - 61 Stephen Neal {74 Billy Yates (LG)}
Right Tackle: - 77 Nick Kaczur {68 Ryan O'Callaghan}
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DEFENSE: (3-4 base with standard DB formation)

Left DE: - 94 Ty Warren {90 Le Kevin Smith | 92 Santonio Thomas (NT) | 95 Kenny Smith (NT)}
Nose Tackle: - 75 Vince Wilfork {99 Mike Wright (DE) | 69 Steve Fifita}
Right DE: - 93 Richard Seymour {97 Jarvis Green (LDE)}
Two[2] Inside LBs: - 54 Tedy Bruschi | 59 Victor Hobson {51 Jerod Mayo* (OLB)| 52 Eric Alexander}
Two[2] Outside LBs: - 50 Mike Vrabel | 96 Adalius Thomas {98 Shawn Crable*| 58 Pierre Woods}
Two[2] CBs: - 27 Ellis Hobbs | 25 Fernando Bryant {22 Terrence Wheatly* | 21 Jason Webster | 24 Jonathan Wilhite* | 29 Lewis Sanders}
SS: - 37 Rodney Harrison {26 Clevan 'Tank' Williams}
FS: - 36 James Sanders (SS) {31 Brandon Meriweather (CB)}
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SPECIAL TEAMS:

K: - 3 Stephen Gostkowski
P: - 6 Chris Hanson {8 Mike Dragosavich***|2 Scott Player}
LS: - 66 Lonie Paxton {one of the rookie undrafted FA signings is suppose to be in contention I thought? Anyone remember who?}

Coverage/Return teams: - 53 Larry Izzo (ILB) | 23 Willie Andrews (DB) | 18 Matt Slater (SS/FS/WR)* | 91 Bo Ruud (ILB/OLB)* {28 Antwain Spann (DB) | 35 Mike Richardson (DB) | 41 Ray Ventrone**(DB) | 19 C.J. Jones** (WR)| 63 Dan Connolly** (C/LG) | 60 Jimmy Martin** (T/RG/C) | 30 Mark Dillard (DB)*** | 42 BenJarvus Green-Ellis*** (RB) | 48 Gary Guyton*** (ILB) | 76 Chris Norwell*** (DL/OL) | 47 Vince Redd*** (OLB) | 62 Henry Smith*** (NT) | 85 Jonathan Stupar*** (TE) | 64 Casey Tyler*** (DE) | xx Ryan Wendell*** (OL) | 46 Tyson DeVree*** (TE)}
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Ruud's hardly a starter. Who beleives that he has better than a 25% shot to even make the team?

Redd has a better chance than Rudd.
 
Cuts:
- April 30th = ILB/OLB T.J. Slaughter and CB Tim Mixon**

Additions: rookie FA signings
- OL Josh Coffman (East Carolina) | DB Mark Dillard (Louisiana Tech) |
DT Carlos Feliciano (Maryland) | RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis (Mississippi) |
LB Gary Guyton (Georgia Tech) | DL Chris Norwell (Illinois)
OLB Vince Redd (Liberty) | NT Henry Smith (Texas A&M)
TE Jonathan Stupar (Virginia) | DE Casey Tyler (Portland State)
C Ryan Wendell (Fresno State)

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* - 2008 rookie draftee (or UDA)
** - previous year practice squad or waiver pickup who did not play..

postion: - starting player or players where applicable. {backups in no particular order (backups' other possible position or positions)}
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Offense:

QB: - 12 Tom Brady {16 Matt Cassel | xx Kevin O'Connell*| 7 Matt Gutierrez**}
RB: - 39 Laurence Maroney {34 Sammy Morris | 33 Kevin Faulk}
FB: - 44 Heath Evans {38 Kyle Eckel}
WR: - 81 Randy Moss| 83 Wes Welker {10 Jabar Gaffney | 17 Chad Jackson | 15 Kelley Washington | xx Sam Aiken}
TE: - 84 Benjamin Watson {86 David Thomas | 82 Stephen Spach | 88 Marcus Pollard}
Left Tackle: - 72 Matt Light {65 Wesley Britt (RT)}
Left Guard: - 70 Logan Mankins {71 Russ Hochstein (C/RG)}
Center: - 67 Dan Koppen
Right Guard: - 61 Stephen Neal {74 Billy Yates (LG)}
Right Tackle: - 77 Nick Kaczur {68 Ryan O'Callaghan}
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Defense: (3-4 base)

Left DE: - 94 Ty Warren {90 Le Kevin Smith | 92 Santonio Thomas (NT)}
Nose Tackle: - 75 Vince Wilfork {99 Mike Wright (DE)}
Right DE: - 93 Richard Seymour {97 Jarvis Green (LDE)}
Outside LB: - 50 Mike Vrabel {58 Pierre Woods}
Inside LB: - 59 Victor Hobson {52 Eric Alexander}
Inside LB: - 54 Tedy Bruschi {xx Jerod Mayo* (OLB)}
Outside LB: - 96 Adalius Thomas {xx Shawn Crable*}
Left CB: - xx Fernando Bryant {xx Jason Webster (RCB) | xx Lewis Sanders (RCB)}
Right CB: - 27 Ellis Hobbs {xx Terrence Wheatly* (RCB) | xx Jonathan Wilhite* (RCB)}
SS: - 37 Rodney Harrison {xx Clevan 'Tank' Williams}
FS: - 36 James Sanders (SS) | {31 Brandon Meriweather (CB)}
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Special Teams:
K: - 3 Stephen Gostkowski
P: - 6 Chris Hanson | 5 Scott Player
LS: - 66 Lonie Paxton
Coverage/Return teams: - 63 Dan Connolly** (C/LG) | xx Jimmy Martin** (T/RG/C) | 60 Kenny Smith (DL) | 53 Larry Izzo (ILB) | 28 Antwain Spann | 35 Mike Richardson | 23 Willie Andrews | 41 Ray Ventrone** | 19 C.J. Jones**| xx Bo Ruud* | xx Matt Slater* | OL Josh Coffman (East Carolina) | DB Mark Dillard (Louisiana Tech) | DT Carlos Feliciano (Maryland) | RB BenJarvus Green-Ellis (Mississippi) | LB Gary Guyton (Georgia Tech) | DL Chris Norwell (Illinois) | OLB Vince Redd (Liberty) | NT Henry Smith (Texas A&M) | TE Jonathan Stupar (Virginia) | DE Casey Tyler (Portland State) | C Ryan Wendell (Fresno State)
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Any ST listing that does not have Pierre Woods, the best ST player on the team, and one of the best in the League even listed on it, isn't worth the paper to print it.

Woods was in on 89% of the ST plays; the B-E-S-T figure in the entire League. Larry Izzo has been fading for two years now.

Pierre Woods had many more ST tackles than Larry, lead the Team, and he wasn't even a gunner, who is supposed to get them. Larry's selection as ST Probowler are based on distant memories. The (old) King is Dead. Long Live the (New) King!

Meanwhile Woods started to get some regular D snaps at OLB late last season; more will follow. After all he is only going into his third season; and it takes a few years to convert from a DE to 3-4 OLB. The UDFA has come along way beating out Jeremy Mincey, and Justin Rodgers, for a position his first two years. :D
 
Woods is listed as making the team as an OLB. That seems right to me. The category of "Coverage/Return" are really should be labeled as players on the outside looking in.

I believe that Slater is competing with Aiken and Izzo will replace one of the corners. I would therefore list both players with the other position players.

Any ST listing that does not have Pierre Woods, the best ST player on the team, and one of the best in the League even listed on it, isn't worth the paper to print it.

Woods was in on 89% of the ST plays; the B-E-S-T figure in the entire League. Larry Izzo has been fading for two years now.

Pierre Woods had many more ST tackles than Larry, lead the Team, and he wasn't even a gunner, who is supposed to get them. Larry's selection as ST Probowler are based on distant memories. The (old) King is Dead. Long Live the (New) King!

Meanwhile Woods started to get some regular D snaps at OLB late last season; more will follow. After all he is only going into his third season; and it takes a few years to convert from a DE to 3-4 OLB. The UDFA has come along way beating out Jeremy Mincey, and Justin Rodgers, for a position his first two years. :D
 
I love our depth. We have the best QB in the league, but that's not it. We have a great defense, great WR's, and great everything. And if one of them gets injured, we have great bench players.

GO PATS!
 
Woods is listed as making the team as an OLB. That seems right to me. The category of "Coverage/Return" are really should be labeled as players on the outside looking in.

I believe that Slater is competing with Aiken and Izzo will replace one of the corners. I would therefore list both players with the other position players.

Yeah, one or two of those backup CBs might be further down the list than Slater on the depth chart as a possible dime-back player. But Slater was seen also taking WR reps so, until we TC with pre-season games can these depth charts be more accurate.
So, there are only about 5 true CBs making the team for CB play (excluding the 4 Safeties). And there will be 2, 3 or 4 players making the team as a ST specialist only. Slater's best chance right now appears to be as a ST specialist only. I agree too that he's competing with Aiken & Ortiz too but I'll keep it for now until we seeso I'll move Aiken to ST area.
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Roster Updates:
1. - June 2nd: Signed veteran FA Oliver Ross (Tackle)
2. - June 1st: Assigned #14 to FA signee Robert Ortiz (WR)
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* - 2008 rookie draftee
** - previous year practice squad or waiver pickup who did not play..
*** - 2008 signed undrafted rookie

postion: - starting player or players where applicable. {backups who are currently in contention for real playing time at the position (backups' other possible position or positions)}
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OFFENSE:

QB: - 12 Tom Brady {16 Matt Cassel | 5 Kevin O'Connell*| 7 Matt Gutierrez**}
RB: - 39 Laurence Maroney {34 Sammy Morris | 33 Kevin Faulk}
FB: - 44 Heath Evans {38 Kyle Eckel}
WR: - 81 Randy Moss| 83 Wes Welker {10 Jabar Gaffney | 17 Chad Jackson | 15 Kelley Washington }
TE: - 84 Benjamin Watson {86 David Thomas | 87 Marcus Pollard | 82 Stephen Spach}
Left Tackle: - 72 Matt Light {65 Wesley Britt (RT)}
Left Guard: - 70 Logan Mankins {71 Russ Hochstein (C/RG)}
Center: - 67 Dan Koppen
Right Guard: - 61 Stephen Neal {74 Billy Yates (LG)}
Right Tackle: - 77 Nick Kaczur {68 Ryan O'Callaghan | 76 Oliver Ross (LT)}
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DEFENSE: (3-4 base with standard DB formation)

Left DE: - 94 Ty Warren {90 Le Kevin Smith | 92 Santonio Thomas (NT) |95 Kenny Smith (NT)}
Nose Tackle: - 75 Vince Wilfork {99 Mike Wright (DE) | 69 Steve Fifita}
Right DE: - 93 Richard Seymour {97 Jarvis Green (LDE)}
Two[2] Inside LBs: - 54 Tedy Bruschi | 59 Victor Hobson { 51 Jerod Mayo* (OLB)| 52 Eric Alexander}
Two[2] Outside LBs: - 50 Mike Vrabel | 96 Adalius Thomas { 98 Shawn Crable* | 58 Pierre Woods}
Two[2] CBs: - 27 Ellis Hobbs | 25 Fernando Bryant { 22 Terrence Wheatly* | 21 Jason Webster | 24 Jonathan Wilhite* | 29 Lewis Sanders}
SS: - 37 Rodney Harrison { 26 Clevan 'Tank' Williams}
FS: - 36 James Sanders (SS) | {31 Brandon Meriweather (CB)}
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SPECIAL TEAMS:

K: - 3 Stephen Gostkowski
P: - 6 Chris Hanson { 8 Mike Dragosavich***| 2 Scott Player}
LS: - 66 Lonie Paxton {one of the rookie undrafted FA signings is suppose to be in contention I thought? Anyone remember who?}

*Note-The Coverage/Return teams listing below is for players who at the current time of the depth order are most likely just to make the team as a ST specialist only (these players will not most likely see any Offense/Defense snaps in real games). Usually 2, 3 or 4 guys make it in this role..
Coverage/Return team specialist only: - 53 Larry Izzo (ILB) | 23 Willie Andrews (DB) | 18 Matt Slater (SS/FS/WR)* | 91 Bo Ruud (ILB/OLB)* {88 Sam Aiken | 14 Robert Ortiz**| 28 Antwain Spann (DB) | 35 Mike Richardson (DB) | 41 Ray Ventrone**(WR/DB) | 19 C.J. Jones** (WR)| 63 Dan Connolly** (C/LG) | 60 Jimmy Martin** (T/RG/C) | 30 Mark Dillard (DB)*** | 42 BenJarvus Green-Ellis*** (RB) | 48 Gary Guyton*** (ILB) | 76 Chris Norwell*** (DL/OL) | 47 Vince Redd*** (OLB) | 62 Henry Smith*** (NT) | 85 Jonathan Stupar*** (TE) | 64 Casey Tyler*** (DE) | xx Ryan Wendell*** (OL) | 46 Tyson DeVree*** (TE)}
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Roster Updates:
1. - June 5th: Released rookie Punter Mike Dragosavich***
2. - June 6th: Signed FA Gene Mruczkowski (OL)
3. - June 11th: Cut rookies TE Tyson DeVree*** | NT Henry Smith*** and DE Casey Tyler***
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* - 2008 rookie draftee
** - previous year practice squad or waiver pickup who did not play..
*** - 2008 signed undrafted rookie

postion: - starting player or players where applicable. {backups who are currently in contention for real playing time at the position (backups' other possible position or positions)}
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OFFENSE:

QB: - 12 Tom Brady {16 Matt Cassel | 5 Kevin O'Connell*| 7 Matt Gutierrez**}
RB: - 39 Laurence Maroney {34 Sammy Morris | 33 Kevin Faulk}
FB: - 44 Heath Evans {38 Kyle Eckel}
WR: - 81 Randy Moss| 83 Wes Welker {10 Jabar Gaffney | 17 Chad Jackson | 15 Kelley Washington }
TE: - 84 Benjamin Watson {86 David Thomas | 87 Marcus Pollard | 82 Stephen Spach}
Left Tackle: - 72 Matt Light {65 Wesley Britt (RT)}
Left Guard: - 70 Logan Mankins {71 Russ Hochstein (C/RG)}
Center: - 67 Dan Koppen {64 Gene Mruczkowski (G)}
Right Guard: - 61 Stephen Neal {74 Billy Yates (LG)}
Right Tackle: - 77 Nick Kaczur {68 Ryan O'Callaghan | 76 Oliver Ross (LT)}
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DEFENSE: (3-4 base with standard DB formation)

Left DE: - 94 Ty Warren {90 Le Kevin Smith | 92 Santonio Thomas (NT) |95 Kenny Smith (NT)}
Nose Tackle: - 75 Vince Wilfork {99 Mike Wright (DE) | 69 Steve Fifita}
Right DE: - 93 Richard Seymour {97 Jarvis Green (LDE)}
Two[2] Inside LBs: - 54 Tedy Bruschi | 59 Victor Hobson { 51 Jerod Mayo* (OLB)| 52 Eric Alexander}
Two[2] Outside LBs: - 50 Mike Vrabel | 96 Adalius Thomas { 98 Shawn Crable* | 58 Pierre Woods}
Two[2] CBs: - 27 Ellis Hobbs | 25 Fernando Bryant { 22 Terrence Wheatly* | 21 Jason Webster | 24 Jonathan Wilhite* | 29 Lewis Sanders}
SS: - 37 Rodney Harrison { 26 Clevan 'Tank' Williams}
FS: - 36 James Sanders (SS) | {31 Brandon Meriweather (CB)}
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SPECIAL TEAMS:

K: - 3 Stephen Gostkowski
P: - 6 Chris Hanson {2 Scott Player}
LS: - 66 Lonie Paxton {one of the rookie undrafted FA signings is suppose to be in contention I thought? Anyone remember who?}

*Note-The Coverage/Return teams listing below is for players who at the current time of the depth order are most likely just to make the team as a ST specialist only (these players will not most likely see any Offense/Defense snaps in real games). Usually 2, 3 or 4 guys make it in this role..
Coverage/Return team specialist only: - 53 Larry Izzo (ILB) | 23 Willie Andrews (DB) | 18 Matt Slater (SS/FS/WR)* | 91 Bo Ruud (ILB/OLB)* {88 Sam Aiken(WR) | 14 Robert Ortiz**(WR)| 28 Antwain Spann (DB) | 35 Mike Richardson (DB) | 41 Ray Ventrone**(WR/DB) | 19 C.J. Jones** (WR)| 63 Dan Connolly** (C/LG) | 60 Jimmy Martin** (T/RG/C) | 30 Mark Dillard (DB)*** | 42 BenJarvus Green-Ellis*** (RB) | 48 Gary Guyton*** (ILB) | 76 Chris Norwell*** (DL/OL) | 47 Vince Redd*** (OLB) | 85 Jonathan Stupar*** (TE) | xx Ryan Wendell*** (OL)}
 
Roster Updates:
1. - June 12th: Released Punter Scott Player
2. – July 1st: Released ST Willie ‘Glock’ Andrews
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* - 2008 rookie draftee
** - previous year practice squad or waiver pickup who did not play..
*** - 2008 signed undrafted rookie

postion: - starting player or players where applicable. {backups who are currently in contention for real playing time at the position (backups' other possible position or positions)}
------------------------------------------------------------------------
OFFENSE:

QB: - 12 Tom Brady {16 Matt Cassel | 5 Kevin O'Connell*| 7 Matt Gutierrez**}
RB: - 39 Laurence Maroney {34 Sammy Morris | 33 Kevin Faulk}
FB: - 44 Heath Evans {38 Kyle Eckel}
Two[2] WRs: - 81 Randy Moss| 83 Wes Welker {10 Jabar Gaffney | 17 Chad Jackson | 15 Kelley Washington }
TE: - 84 Benjamin Watson {86 David Thomas | 87 Marcus Pollard | 82 Stephen Spach}
Left Tackle: - 72 Matt Light {65 Wesley Britt (RT)}
Left Guard: - 70 Logan Mankins {71 Russ Hochstein (C/RG)}
Center: - 67 Dan Koppen {64 Gene Mruczkowski (G)}
Right Guard: - 61 Stephen Neal {74 Billy Yates (LG)}
Right Tackle: - 77 Nick Kaczur {68 Ryan O'Callaghan | 76 Oliver Ross (LT)}
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DEFENSE: (3-4 base with standard DB formation)

Left DE: - 94 Ty Warren {90 Le Kevin Smith | 92 Santonio Thomas (NT) |95 Kenny Smith (NT)}
Nose Tackle: - 75 Vince Wilfork {99 Mike Wright (DE) | 69 Steve Fifita}
Right DE: - 93 Richard Seymour {97 Jarvis Green (LDE)}
Two[2] Inside LBs: - 54 Tedy Bruschi | 59 Victor Hobson { 51 Jerod Mayo* (OLB)| 52 Eric Alexander}
Two[2] Outside LBs: - 50 Mike Vrabel | 96 Adalius Thomas { 98 Shawn Crable* | 58 Pierre Woods}
Two[2] CBs: - 27 Ellis Hobbs | 25 Fernando Bryant { 22 Terrence Wheatly* | 21 Jason Webster | 24 Jonathan Wilhite* | 29 Lewis Sanders}
SS: - 37 Rodney Harrison { 26 Clevan 'Tank' Williams}
FS: - 36 James Sanders (SS) | {31 Brandon Meriweather (CB)}
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SPECIAL TEAMS:

K: - 3 Stephen Gostkowski
P: - 6 Chris Hanson
LS: - 66 Lonie Paxton {one of the rookie undrafted FA signings is suppose to be in contention I thought? Anyone remember who?}

*Note-The Coverage/Return teams listing below is for players who at the current time of the depth order are most likely just to make the team as a ST specialist only (these players will not most likely see any Offense/Defense snaps in real games). Usually 2, 3 or 4 guys make it in this role..
Coverage/Return team specialist only: - 53 Larry Izzo (ILB) | 18 Matt Slater (SS/FS/WR)* | 91 Bo Ruud (ILB/OLB)* {88 Sam Aiken (WR) | 14 Robert Ortiz** (WR)| 28 Antwain Spann (DB) | 35 Mike Richardson (DB) | 41 Ray Ventrone**(WR/DB) | 19 C.J. Jones** (WR) | 63 Dan Connolly** (C/LG) | 60 Jimmy Martin** (T/RG/C) | 30 Mark Dillard (DB)*** | 42 BenJarvus Green-Ellis*** (RB) | 48 Gary Guyton*** (ILB) | 76 Chris Norwell*** (DL/OL) | 47 Vince Redd*** (OLB) | 85 Jonathan Stupar*** (TE) | xx Ryan Wendell*** (OL)
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I too am excited about our roster but I do have a itsy bitsy question that I am sure has been addressed already and I just can NOT find on my own... what is the official word on Seau?

Thanks!

GO PATS GO!!:singing:
 
I too am excited about our roster but I do have a itsy bitsy question that I am sure has been addressed already and I just can NOT find on my own... what is the official word on Seau?

Thanks!

GO PATS GO!!:singing:

There is none. Remember this is the Patriots. The CIA is far leakier.
 
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