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  1. Merril Hoge's Tie Knot

    Merril Hoge's Tie Knot Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    Needs

    Starting G
    Need a Waters replacement because RG is probably the biggest hole in the starting lineups. Mankins isn't getting any younger either.

    Starting FB
    It’s been a revolving door since McDaniels returned, and now there are none. It'd be nice to get a dependable one.

    CB potentially
    A lot is still TBD

    LDE potentially
    A lot is still TBD


    Wants

    Rotational C
    We have three. None of them are young and good.

    Rotational T
    Need some depth there - a tackle that can play both sides.

    Developmental DT
    I’d like to get some upside at such an important position.

    Developmental Outside WR
    Somebody smart and quick, with good hands.

    Developmental QB
    Need to bring in another QB to increase the odds the Brady's eventual successor is on the roster.
     
  2. Merril Hoge's Tie Knot

    Merril Hoge's Tie Knot Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    ATippett56 said this in the prospect thread, and while I agree, I think it merits it's own thread.

     
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    It's still early, and a lot depends on how certain key players develop and/or their health and contract status. Sebastian Vollmer played the entire game at RT against Baltimore. A healthy Vollmer changes the equation at RT drastically, and might also allow Marcus Cannon to move to RG.

    Right now I agree that a LDE opposite Chandler Jones is a huge need. I'm personally not comfortable with any of Rob Ninkovich, Jermaine Cunningham or Jake Bequette being that guy, though all 3 should be contributors. I still see a need for another DT, especially as Wilfork is on the wrong side of 30.

    I'm personally holding off assessing the secondary until later in the season. I think it's too early to make judgments. Both Pat Chung and Kyle Arrington are in contract years, and I doubt both of them will stay, so I can see a need somewhere in this area as well.
     
  4. Merril Hoge's Tie Knot

    Merril Hoge's Tie Knot Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    I'm not sure a healthy Vollmer is anything to count on anymore. BB has seemed reluctant to use Cannon at guard. Either way I think Cannon needs to shave some weight to get quicker and more balanced.
     
  5. ATippett56

    ATippett56 Pro Bowl Player

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    Spencer Larsen was placed on injured reserve while Tony Fiammetta was placed on the season exempt list for personal reasons.

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    manxman2601 Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    #24 Jersey

    I'm starting to think that OG is by far and away our biggest need. For most other positions listed above,we can muddle through but we really can't at that RG position, particularly considering Mankins' age and injury problems. I think this is even more relevant considering this exceptionally strong OG field at the top end (we really don't want to be in
    the position of drafting two OGs next year.
     
  7. nekromantique

    nekromantique On the Game Day Roster

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    I'd say Love fits that mold, though i agree DT is still a position of need.


    I think O-Line comes down to vollmers health and where they plan to play Cannon. coming out of college everyone figured he was more suited for guard, and he was drafted as a guard...but the pats continue to play him at tackle (because of vollmers health)...so its unclear how well hed play at RG.


    True #1 CB
    DE opposite Jones (could even be cunningham honestly)
    a good rushing DT
    RT/RG
    Outside WR with good size and speed.

    I would say CB and DE are the most important...followed by DT and RT/RG

    our receiver situation is decent for next year.
     
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    captain stone Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    In no particular order:

    Offense -
    WR, pref a tall & fast one (Torrey Smith & Jacoby Jones v Edelman & Branch = No Contest);
    OG, so Connolly can return to Center;
    OT, as a legit backup/replacement for Vollmer;
    FB, for the attitude this soft as Charmin, choke-artist offense so desperately needs;

    Defense -
    DE - Ninkovich completely sux, he was better at LB;
    OLB - our LBs are the slowest in football;
    CB - is Dowling the new Darius Butler?
    Safety - Chung had the one good tackle, but blows in coverage.
     
  9. ATippett56

    ATippett56 Pro Bowl Player

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    You do realize the New England Patriots only have five draft picks in the 2013 NFL Draft?

    1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 7th round picks
     
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    manxman2601 Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    #24 Jersey

    One compensatory pick and a couple of draft day trades and The Wiz that is BB gets to fulfill all Captain Stone's desires.
     
  11. Merril Hoge's Tie Knot

    Merril Hoge's Tie Knot Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    Or with 3 free agents. Those still exist right?
     
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    ATippett56 Pro Bowl Player

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    captain stone Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    OchoStinko & Fat Albert: the gifts that keep on giving - like herpes.
     
  14. ATippett56

    ATippett56 Pro Bowl Player

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    Draft on defense, unrestricted free agency on offense.

    QB - Brady, Mallett
    RB - Vereen, Ridley, Bolden, Demps, Larsen/Fiammetta
    WR - Lloyd, Gaffney, Edelman, Salas, Slater
    TE - Gronkowski, Hernandez, Ballard, Fells
    OL - Solder, Mankins, Wendell, Connolly, Vollmer, McDonald, Cannon, Unrestricted Free Agent, Developmental Project

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    MrNathanDrake In the Starting Line-Up

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    Left End
    Right Guard
    Wide Receiver
     
  16. ATippett56

    ATippett56 Pro Bowl Player

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    Cornerbacks!
     
  17. captain stone

    captain stone Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    Pass-Rushers!

    And despite Bill & Patricia's insistence to the contrary, I do not consider Wilfork a Pass-Rusher.
     
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    captain stone Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    As of today, OG might now be considered priority #1, at least on offense.
     
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    Avenger Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

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    Move Cannon inside to OG, pick up a backup OT in FA or the Draft. Solder-Mankins-Connolly-Cannon-Vollmer would be a good line going forward
     
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    captain stone Veteran Starter w/Big Long Term Deal

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    But can we depend on Mankins going forward? He ain't no spring chicken, and now he has hip issues,
    in addition to his knee issues.
     

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