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  1. patsfan13

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    New book by Peter Schweizer: "Throw them all out"
    exposing the ways members of congress enrich themsleves.

    Peter Schweizer's New Book Blasts Congressional Corruption - The Daily Beast



    Breitbart is all over this story has 7 stories on this:- Big Government


    One of the stories call on (R) S Bachus to resign,


    Pelosi get access to VISA IPO after blocking legislation that would hurt Credit Card companies. Makes millions as documented by 60 Minutes (which I didn't see getting ready for Pats gme...)
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    Should not be able to buy stocks when you or your spouse is in congress....period!!! If you have them before you run for congress you should have to sell them in order to gain office.....period!!!

    Pats13 we don't agree on a lot but i'm with you a 100% on this:rocker:
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    IMO congresspersons should have to abide to insider trading rules.
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    Really glad that the right is starting to understand ethics violations, so when it is requested that Clarence Thomas recuse himself from the upcoming Health Care Court case..

    Recognizing ethics violations is a good beginning.. betcha the "grand inquisitor" Issa is dirty as mud..
    Boehner will probably be right up there as well..
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    We anxiously await the Kagan recursal and the left damning N Pelosi and J Kerry for their behavior.


    Thomas wife doesn't have anything to do with his role as a judge and she isn't an employee of a pharm, ins or healthcare co.
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    No, she was just the president and CEO of a Liberty Central which has been actively fighting the new law. She also received over $150,000 in salary from that group and another $15,000 from an anti-health care lobby firm which she, herself, started.

    So, you're right. She wasn't an employee of an individual pharm, ins or healthcare company. Oh, hell no, she represented all of them.

    Daily Kos: Clarence Thomas's conflict of interest on Affordable Care Act
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    PF13 starts a thread that I thought was pretty bi-partisan in nature. Something that I see many challenging him to do. The response? More partisanship. Awesome.
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    It took several hours, though. :)
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    BTW Boehner is involved in this sort of activity.
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    Some people are partisan and don't have standards of right and wrong that apply to anyone other than their political opponents.

    Of course this sort of thing points out a major problem with Big Government. The power to control companies through issuing government $$$, having regulatory authority, and controlling taxes is corrupting because the people with the power can use that power to enrich themselves at the cost of freedom of the citizens.

    This is a reason why government should have far less power and spend far fewer of the taxpayers $$$$. A flat tax and eliminating a number of government agencies would be a good start.
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    :rofl:


    A flat tax doesn't do anything of the sort -- tax rates aren't the problem, it's the deductions and other loopholes that lend themselves to abuses.
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    The Flat Tax eliminates deductions and loopholes...Duh.
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    the Washington Times? Really?

    Educate yourself on the term "reflexivity" as it pertains to the global markets. You and your favorite daily newspaper there obviously have no idea how Soros really does business and capitalizes on market trends.

    Besides police discipline, is there ANY topic you know much of anything about? I've yet to see it.
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    Kagan has said she would recuse herself...

    The second part is telling, as you have been informed of the rules for judges many times, but you continue to ignore them...

    http://www.uscourts.gov/rulesandpolicies/codesofconduct/codeconductunitedstatesjudges.aspx

    C
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    Once you eliminate the taxes on capital gains the rich won't need loopholes. Duh.

    As for eliminating deductions - the poor and the middle class are going to be hurt most because they're the ones who most benefit by mortgage deductions, child care credits, medical deductions, student loans, etc..

    But, I forget, that's the goal, isn't it?
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    sure it does, 13... you certainly are naive

    duh
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    Why do people constantly hijack threads? If you want to discuss the SCOTUS taking up Obamacare, and justice recusal, go into the threads discussing that, or start a separate thread about it. Don't hijack a thread on congressional corruption.


    Now, as for the ORIGINAL THREAD TOPIC, did any of you catch the 60 Minutes piece? I can only imagine how many members of government in general, be they congressmen, senators, cabinet members, department heads, etc. are in on crap like this. I think we need to set up new rules that either prohibit the trade of stocks/securities/etc. for these people, or require that all their financial dealings "while in government" be made public. If you don't want to disclose this info, then don't run for office.
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    Explain why it wouldn't as there are no deductions?
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    Take a long look in the mirror. You're the worst of the bunch at this.
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    Projecting again I see. BYE.
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    A flat tax doesn't have to be without deductions, exemptions, etc. Flat tax simply means one rate -- which means it could be screwed with just as a progressive (or, for that matter, regressive) structure can.
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    LOL, so your response is essentially , "I know you are, but what am I?"... You're not fooling anyone here. Almost every topic you create or enter has a partisan rationalization. Especially energy, mankind's biggest dilemma, which you have zero grasp of, so you pretend it's all liberal law makers' fault.

    I hammer democrats FAR more than you take republicans to task. Good try, though.
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    How can anyone justify that government is a better solution to care for people than before government took care of people. Everyone helped everyone in their community before government mandated it.

    Now people grow up thinking their entitled, they have attitudes, they are not friendly, I don't want to help them, they are lazy, uneducated, un-motivated... And government keeps them that way.
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    So the government controls everything and people have no self control or free will????
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    The Book "Throw Them All Out"
    Thats bi-partisian.
    Good
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    Be smarter than that...

    The Government dictates massive amounts of money be brought to DC in order to be redistributed in accordance to those in charge. Individuals who are empowered via free will help decide where this money which they did nothing to earn, gets re-distributed.

    These people relied on numerous donations, and favors from special interests to be in the position they are in, and they are beholden to those interests to give them a Return on their Investment.

    It happens all the time no matter which "party" is in power.

    The problem is that we continually look to grow government in order to solve our problem, when the answer is to reduce government, reduce our dependence on a central governing body, and reduce the waste and corruption.

    If our congress only performed the actions they are supposed to as noted by the constitution, companies would be wasting their money by buying a senator.
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    Honestly, whenever someone posts an issue that is non-partisan, we have very small-minded individuals who must feel COMPELLED to put their 2 cents in on a partisan basis...they know who they are.

    This is just one of the hundreds of issues that require no partisan input...very nice to read other than the partisan commentary from the insignificant....guess we should be happy with progress rather than perfection.
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    You make a shytload of generalizations all based on your points of view.. not many expect congress to solve our problems, what many of us expect is for congress to work on creative solutions to keep spending in check and pass laws that benefit all, not just a few.

    Congress has chosen to hunker down into their partisan bunkers, one side believing that anything the other sides propose is completely wrong and the other side pretty much the same... meanwhile nothing is getting done, except determining Pizza is a vegetable.

    Nothing will get done during this election cycle, so next fall both can point fingers at each other and say the other side got nothing done... the whole thing borders on absurdity. Or maybe they will pass some more energy laws, that favor large corporations and protect them while they pollute the watershed of 26 million people and rape our natural resources..

    Unfortunately Lobbyists have more influence than the electorate, and what they say with their money and gifts determines a lot of what happens in this country..
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    A lot of problems here on both sides of the aisle.

    This is why establishment pubs dislike the Tea Party aslmost as much as the dems.

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