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    New book by Peter Schweizer: "Throw them all out"
    exposing the ways members of congress enrich themsleves.

    Peter Schweizer's New Book Blasts Congressional Corruption - The Daily Beast



    Breitbart is all over this story has 7 stories on this:- Big Government


    One of the stories call on (R) S Bachus to resign,


    Pelosi get access to VISA IPO after blocking legislation that would hurt Credit Card companies. Makes millions as documented by 60 Minutes (which I didn't see getting ready for Pats gme...)
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    Should not be able to buy stocks when you or your spouse is in congress....period!!! If you have them before you run for congress you should have to sell them in order to gain office.....period!!!

    Pats13 we don't agree on a lot but i'm with you a 100% on this:rocker:
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    IMO congresspersons should have to abide to insider trading rules.
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    Really glad that the right is starting to understand ethics violations, so when it is requested that Clarence Thomas recuse himself from the upcoming Health Care Court case..

    Recognizing ethics violations is a good beginning.. betcha the "grand inquisitor" Issa is dirty as mud..
    Boehner will probably be right up there as well..
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    We anxiously await the Kagan recursal and the left damning N Pelosi and J Kerry for their behavior.


    Thomas wife doesn't have anything to do with his role as a judge and she isn't an employee of a pharm, ins or healthcare co.
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    No, she was just the president and CEO of a Liberty Central which has been actively fighting the new law. She also received over $150,000 in salary from that group and another $15,000 from an anti-health care lobby firm which she, herself, started.

    So, you're right. She wasn't an employee of an individual pharm, ins or healthcare company. Oh, hell no, she represented all of them.

    Daily Kos: Clarence Thomas's conflict of interest on Affordable Care Act
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    PF13 starts a thread that I thought was pretty bi-partisan in nature. Something that I see many challenging him to do. The response? More partisanship. Awesome.
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    It took several hours, though. :)
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    BTW Boehner is involved in this sort of activity.
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    Some people are partisan and don't have standards of right and wrong that apply to anyone other than their political opponents.

    Of course this sort of thing points out a major problem with Big Government. The power to control companies through issuing government $$$, having regulatory authority, and controlling taxes is corrupting because the people with the power can use that power to enrich themselves at the cost of freedom of the citizens.

    This is a reason why government should have far less power and spend far fewer of the taxpayers $$$$. A flat tax and eliminating a number of government agencies would be a good start.
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    :rofl:


    A flat tax doesn't do anything of the sort -- tax rates aren't the problem, it's the deductions and other loopholes that lend themselves to abuses.
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    The Flat Tax eliminates deductions and loopholes...Duh.
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    the Washington Times? Really?

    Educate yourself on the term "reflexivity" as it pertains to the global markets. You and your favorite daily newspaper there obviously have no idea how Soros really does business and capitalizes on market trends.

    Besides police discipline, is there ANY topic you know much of anything about? I've yet to see it.
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    Kagan has said she would recuse herself...

    The second part is telling, as you have been informed of the rules for judges many times, but you continue to ignore them...

    http://www.uscourts.gov/rulesandpolicies/codesofconduct/codeconductunitedstatesjudges.aspx

    C
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    #24 Jersey

    Once you eliminate the taxes on capital gains the rich won't need loopholes. Duh.

    As for eliminating deductions - the poor and the middle class are going to be hurt most because they're the ones who most benefit by mortgage deductions, child care credits, medical deductions, student loans, etc..

    But, I forget, that's the goal, isn't it?
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    sure it does, 13... you certainly are naive

    duh
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    Why do people constantly hijack threads? If you want to discuss the SCOTUS taking up Obamacare, and justice recusal, go into the threads discussing that, or start a separate thread about it. Don't hijack a thread on congressional corruption.


    Now, as for the ORIGINAL THREAD TOPIC, did any of you catch the 60 Minutes piece? I can only imagine how many members of government in general, be they congressmen, senators, cabinet members, department heads, etc. are in on crap like this. I think we need to set up new rules that either prohibit the trade of stocks/securities/etc. for these people, or require that all their financial dealings "while in government" be made public. If you don't want to disclose this info, then don't run for office.
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    Explain why it wouldn't as there are no deductions?
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    Take a long look in the mirror. You're the worst of the bunch at this.

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