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Creeping nanny state...Babysitters to get rest breaks...in California

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  1. Patsfanin Philly

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    So now you'll need two babysitters, one to fill in when the first one goes on break!!!!!



    California AB 889 Babysitter Bill 8.11

    How will parents react when they find out they will be expected to provide workers' compensation benefits, rest and meal breaks and paid ...
    Regulation of the Day 196: Babysitting

    Posted on August 31, 2011 by Ryan Young| 1 Comment
    >>>>California legislators are set to pass a bill that would reduce the number of babysitters. Not on purpose, of course. But when you make babysitters more expensive, parents won’t hire as many of them. California Sen. Doug LaMalfa lists some of the bill’s requirements:
    Under AB 889, household “employers” (aka “parents”) who hire a babysitter on a Friday night will be legally obligated to pay at least minimum wage to any sitter over the age of 18 (unless it is a family member), provide a substitute caregiver every two hours to cover rest and meal breaks, in addition to workers’ compensation coverage, overtime pay, and a meticulously calculated timecard/paycheck.<<<<<
    ab 889 california ab 889 | Inertia Wins!
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl: Oh my god, please nuke us now! :rofl:

    This can't be real. It just can't be.
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    I'm assuming these would be the unintended but technically accurate consequences of some bill being proposed?

    There's no way a couple hiring a babysitter would actually have to hire 2 (to "provide a substitute caregiver every two hours to cover rest and meal breaks")... right? please?
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    Oh, this is just right-wing silliness, the same sort of ploy they used years ago when women were fighting for the Equal Rights Amendments, and right wing lunatics were raising fears that it would mean men and women would have to share the same bathrooms. I can't believe that intelligent people would fall for these for right wing hysterics. The bill is intended to protect the rights of the regular part-time and full-time domestic worker, not the casual babysitter.
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    Then why does the language specifically include babysitters and language exempting babysitters was edited out??
    Floor/Committee Analysis of AB 889.
    >>>
    1. IWC Wage Order 15

    IWC Wage Order 15 applies to "household occupations," defined as
    all services related to the care of persons or maintenance of a
    private household or its premises by an employee of a private
    householder.

    Under Wage Order 15, "personal attendants" are defined as
    including:

    "babysitters and means any person employed by a private
    householder or by
    any third party employer recognized in the health care
    industry to work in a
    private household, to supervise, feed, or dress a child or
    person who by reason
    of advanced age, physical disability, or mental deficiency
    needs supervision."
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    Pfffft, so it says babysitter. It doesn't actually mean babysitter you know. [​IMG]
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    I hate creepy nannies.
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    what about sexy ones?
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    If you have a regular employee--housekeeper, babysitter, nanny, etc. or someone you use who is over 18 and not a family members, they are entitled to certain rights. It's absurd to think that anyone is interested in cracking down on the ordinary babysitter, and the issue is being exploited by the anti-worker right wing that doesn't want household employees to get minimum wages, breaks, or other benefits that other employees get.

    Caregiver Versus Personal Attendant - Wages and Benefits
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    I agree. It's completely absurd. I mean, it's not like the feds would ever raid a piano shop with 14 agents or anything. So it says babysitters. Big deal.
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    Not only is it absurd it is stupid, if passed it will be ignored..
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    What can't be ignored is the Tax payers money that went into the time it took to craft and work this legislation through the government.

    Further showcasing the irrelevance and inefficiency that is government.

    Do we really need to pay for law that will be ignored? Is this a law that needs to be on the books? Do we need more laws and regulation?
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    Yea I know Ron Paul will make it all better:eek::eek::eek:

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