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  1. b72s

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    Which one will contribute?

    Which one will be a bust?

    Pats and Curran feel that this influenced Picks?

    Sure paid aalot for crable for 2 years IR?

    McKenzie and Tate I think may be potential PT players and 2011 starters
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    We do not know, love McKenzie's story and apparent heart, lots of props coming out of college.. Tate is another one, we drafted him injured, so this year we will see...

    Not much faith in Crable..
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    Tate should be given a great chance for the #3 spot, Spikes just took McKenzie's job! Unless they move Guyton to OLB I dont see him doing better than replacing Alexander on ST....every year we try to get rid of that guy and he is STILL HERE....another guy with naked pics of BB.
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    Mayock said it again today, Tate was FIRST ROUND caliber taken in the 3rd due to the injury. Hope he is right.
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    Who's healthy? Who can win a spot?

    I'm loving this camp competition this year, loving it.
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    Three long months to wait.
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    You'd have to say all three are longshots due to their injury histories, no?
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    Other than Crable, no, not really.
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    I'm not aware any are still injured. If they're healthy in camp they can win a job.
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    McKenzie should be part of of the rotation, spikes is a 2 down player. He reminds me of of TJ.

    Tate has to preform, bottom line is they will give every chance but they have other returners coming in that will take his position, I do not see him being a defensive special teams ace. I do like his potnetial.

    Crable has atleast another year, he has scarey physical ability. He may be a wimp when he gets a bobo but he can rush the passer. He has the ability but does he have the desire.

    Cunningham will press him as will woods, but we need more then Cain rushing the passer.

    Where is Don Blackmon when you need him, talk about being over shadowed by Tippet....
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    Hell I'd take Johnny Rembert.

    Imagine what Vincent Brown would do in his prime w/ BB in this defense.
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    Tate has a huge upside. Don't forget McKenzie was a tackling machine in college. Pats covered themselves very well there with the Spikes pick though.

    Crable, sadly, may never stay healthy.

    If the best happened and they hit on all three, get ready for Dallas in February.
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    I loved the McKenzie pick at the time and I still love it now. The kid is fantastic...went to 3 different colleges so he could look after his mother, and produced at each one.

    Crable...who knows. Let's just get him on the field and see what he can do.

    Tate I don't really have a feel for. He played a bit last season but the glories of TV camera angles meant it was pretty difficult to focus in on him. Much easier to stare in wonder at the excellence that was Vollmer.
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    I'm looking forward to seeing what McKenzie can do. If he comes through, it'll give us a very young, but strong ILB rotation.

    As for Tate and Crable who knows. They are both loaded with potential and can certainly contribute if they can stay healthy.
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    With Moss and Holt on the roster, we shouldn't expect too much from Tate this year. Next year the space will clear for him to step up, and he'll move into year three, in which he either gets it or never will. He deserves two more years to show what he can do.

    Ditto for McKenzie. At the least if healthy, he has special teams potential and may be a good depth player.

    Crable - he's been around now enough to know his role and be able to step in and contribute. If he gets the chance and doesn't play solid football, goodbye.

    The best thing is that these three guys are the equivalent of rookies right now - but rookies with time in the system under their belt. If any of them make decent contributions this year, the depth on this team will be exceptional.

    Btw - nice question!
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    I'd add Wheatley to the list. We're not counting on any of them. We hope for contributions but brought in draftees at all of their positions.

    Crable we drafted Cunningham
    Tate we drafted Price
    McKenzie we drafted Spikes
    Wheatley we drafted McCourty
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    He had the fastest 3 cone of all LBs.
    Also had 4 ints, 2 for TDs.
    So asking him to cover a slot wr wont work.
    But asking him to play the hook zone should be ok.
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    Just what i was thinking. Remember when you had to win a job? Rembert was an outstanding special teams player because none of those linebackers were just going to let someone grab snaps.

    This "professional special teamers" bullshirt has had me steamed for a while.

    Stand and deliver Eric Alexander, Slater et all. Nothing wrong with a new guy using teams to fight his way on. Maybe become an All Pro like Rembert.

    You need one ST Captain, then I'd love to see a cut throat competition to make the squad at backed up positions. Always improved team competitiveness, IMO. If you suck at playing football otherwise, but are so good at teams you're indispensable, then so be it. Prove it.
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    I was always fine with Whigham and then with Izzo and Davis. My gut says the limit should be two "ST only" players. We had way too many last year.

    I suspect that Slater and Aiken are competing for one such spot, as are Lockett and Arrington. I suppose that if Crable doesn't make the squad Alexander and Murrell could compete for that roster spot.

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    Not sure why McKenzie is characterized as having a history of injuries, when he never had an injury until rookie minicamp. On top of that he will have had what, sixteen months of rehab to recover?

    I'm not discounting the fact that this kind of injury reduces the probability of a player being effective and productive in the NFL. On the other hand there are plenty of players (e.g., Edgerrin James) that have had what was presumed to be career ending injuries that went on to prove their critics wrong.

    In my opinion it's way too early to write McKenzie off. I'd say treat him like another fourth-round draft pick: his original third minus one round for the injury.
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    Tate, if he makes the team i dont look for much from him as a WR it would be nice to see him become the full time punt re-turner.



    McKenzie, will take seau, spot 10 to 15 snaps a game if alexander, can make the team i don't see why McKenzie, can't lol



    Crable, has maybe more talent then most of the OLB's that came out in this draft. and has two years of reading the play book but this is the year. it's now or never. if he is a bust then a think guyton maybe the OLB we been looking for he has the speed to get to the QB
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    I feel pretty good about McKenzie, FWIW. I love the idea of him, Spikes, and Mayo murdering inside. Not a huge Guyton fan, but he'd have a place in that rotation as well on clear passing downs.

    I have no real opinion one way or the other on Tate: hope for the best, but I don't even have a suspicion as to what will happen. Crable's done though, as far as I'm concerned. When's the last time that a guy made it into his third year without stepping on a football field in the regular season, then went on to have an even remotely decent career?
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    Crable is a figment of your imagination. He doesn't exist, I think he was made up by the Patriots to scare other draftees into staying in shape.
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    James Harrison played on ST in the final game of his first year, but didn't play a snap on defense until his 3rd year. He was also released by both the Steelers and Ravens during his first two years.
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    Yup, the Pats have covered their bases. If any of those 4 previous draftees don't pan out, we have some new hungry guys just itching to step up and take their jobs. The competition in camp should be ferocious! I'm looking forward to it! :D
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    What about AD?
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    Will be interesting who will be on the 53-man roster.

    This is Crable's LAST SHOT. If he does not outperform OLBs, he's as good as gone. Tate has to beat out Price. Don't know about McKenzie...
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    I'm not counting on AD. As far as roster spot, Cunningham has that. Crable never had one.

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    If I was going to pick one of those players, I would say Tate, since he's actually seen the field during a regular season game.
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    Ha ha.............classic.:p
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