Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by c_nice_37, Dec 17, 2009.
See post #8 in this thread. Already discussed.
Pit's junior DEs, Romeus and his counterpart on the other side Jabaal Sheard, had a good bowl game against NC. Good run defense to go with the pass rush, not a lot of pressure, but decent. Romeus did drop in coverage once that I saw, he's not as smooth, but he can learn to do it better in Big Willie style.
I also liked E. J. Wilson of NC, he showed a lot of hustle, good against the run, some pressure against a dominating Pit O-line. Decent late round/UDFA option.
If NC's WR Little comes out he'll go early rounds, nice looking big play kid.
I liked Pit's CB Aaron Berry, he looks like he'll get drafted.
NC's LT Kyle Jolly played well against Romeus.
I didn't see his post Box. I get along fine with Mayo. No offense taken by me. I was disappointed in UNC def. front. Given their reps, would have thought they could slow Pitt down a little more. Dorin Dickerson -fb/te/h-back might be someone to consider on Day III.
Watching SC/BC. Does T.Mays ever make any plays? He's easily the most over-rated prospect I've seen in years. He just doesn't have the instincts to play S in the NFL.
Maybe a weak-side lb in a 4-3. But, then he'd only be about a 3-4 round pick. Not a Top 10 like he's projected.
:snob: He's still a grouch. :yeeha:
I'd thought Dickerson was a junior, but I just checked the NCAA stat site and see he's a senior after all. I'd definitely like to see him in a Pats uniform learning true FB duties.
I was expecting more from NC's front seven, but Pit's OL just flat out beat them.
Here's a review of some prospects in upcoming BCS bowl games from Tony Pauline at CNNSI:
2010 NFL Draft prospects in BCS games - NFL - SI.com
Of particular interest:
- Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio St.: "The son of the late Craig "Ironhead" Heyward is well regarded in the scouting community, as was his father, a former first-round pick himself. Heyward is a physically gifted prospect with potential at several positions on the defensive line. The feeling in Columbus at this time is Heyward will return for his senior season. Grade: Mid-First Round"
- Joe Haden, CB, Florida: "The Gators shutdown cover man has been rightly hailed as the top cornerback in the nation. He must be at his best in the Sugar Bowl as not only is Haden facing the Bearcats potent passing game but also Mardy Gilyard, one of the best downfield threats in the nation. Haden is expected to enter the draft and a good performance could vault him into the top dozen picks next April. Mid-First Round"
- Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida: "Pouncey has the opportunity to showcase his skills on the national stage and once again prove he's the best center in the nation. He should easily handle the Bearcats smallish defensive front line but scouts will closely inspect Pouncey's ability to get out in space and block in motion, taking on Cincinnati's quick linebackers. Late-First Round"
- Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida: "Dunlap returns to the field after a DUI charge resulted in a one-game suspension for the SEC title contest. He has all the skills necessary to be an impact defensive player, yet only occasionally plays to his level of ability. Dunlap could have a big game against the Bearcats offensive line, which is limited athletically, if he applies himself for 60 minutes. Late-First Round"
- Jermaine Cunningham, DE/OLB, FLorida: "Cunningham is a smallish college end who makes up for his size by playing hard for 60 minutes. He's fast off the edge and constantly causes problems for opposing signal-callers. NFL teams are looking at Cunningham as a potential rush linebacker and good workouts prior to April will push his draft grade further north. Third Round"
- Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida: "Hernandez has been the favorite target of Tim Tebow this season and has elevated himself into one of the better pass catching tight ends in the nation. He projects as a move tight end in the NFL and the belief is Hernandez will enter the 2010 draft. Third Round"
- Jerry Hughes, DE/OLB, TCU: "Hughes has been the anchor for one of the nation's better defenses the past two years. He's an athletic pass rusher that also effectively plays in space. Boise State's propensity to mix things up on offense will mentally test Hughes and give NFL scouts a measuring stick on whether or not he can handle the responsibilities of being a fulltime linebacker at the next level. Late-First Round"
- Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech: "Dwyer burst on the scene as a freshman and has commanded the running attack for the Jackets the past three years. He's a powerful north/south runner who, at times, seems out of place in Paul Johnson's offense, which often moves east/west. The Hawkeyes defense is adept at stopping the run, which will be a challenge for Dwyer, who is expected to enter the draft. Mid-First Round"
- Demaryius Williams, WR, Georgia Tech: "Dwyer burst on the scene as a freshman and has commanded the running attack for the Jackets the past three years. He's a powerful north/south runner who, at times, seems out of place in Paul Johnson's offense, which often moves east/west. The Hawkeyes defense is adept at stopping the run, which will be a challenge for Dwyer, who is expected to enter the draft. Mid-First Round"
- Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech: "Morgan leads the ACC in sacks (12) and rates second in tackles for loss (18). He's a fierce pass rusher with the ability to pursue then catch ball handlers from the backside. Morgan is projected by many to the outside linebacker position and is expected to enter the draft. His match-up against Bulaga is one NFL scouts are looking forward to. Late-First Round"
- Brian Bulaga, OT, Iowa: "Bulaga started off the year hot, meeting the expectations of NFL scouts, before struggling late in the campaign. He's a large athlete that excels as a pass protector and run blocker. Several scouts feel Bulaga would be best inside at guard and may not be able to handle the left tackle position in the NFL. He could quell that criticism today by shutting down Derrick Morgan of Tech, one of the nation's best pass rushers. Late-First round"
- Amary Spivey, CB, Iowa: "Spievey has risen to the occasion for Iowa throughout the season since transferring from junior college. He's a well-sized cornerback who compares favorably to a pair of former Iowa corners, Bradley Fletcher and Charles Godfrey, both third-round picks in the NFL draft. His battle against Demaryius Thomas will be a measuring stick for Spievey. Third Round"
Some interesting evaluations. Derrick Morgan looks more like a top 15 pick to me, and Demaryius Williams as a mid-1st round pick seems like a stretch.
I'll be watching Greg Hardy's return in the Cotton Bowl. I'll probably try to watch some Jerry Hughes too since I have a gut feeling BB wants to draft him.
I have been anything but impressed with Corey Wootton so far. I'm sticking with my 2nd/3rd round grade.
I'm really interested in seeing Greg Hardy play his last game ever for Ole Miss. I think he's gonna want to go out with a bang. I had a man crush on him early in the year.
Also interested in seeing Dunlap and Cunningham play for Florida. I think Cunningham is an underrated player who could be a good add in rounds 3-4. He's pretty explosive off the edge and I think he would benefit by playing in a 3-4 as an OLB.
I was really anticipating a great game last night in the Va Tech vs Tenn game, but it was a very one sided 2nd half. For the 2011 draft and our two first round picks, Ryan Williams looks like a great back to pick up if he comes out early. He redshirted as a freshman last year so he would eligible if he wanted to come out. He's got everything you look for in a RB. Great speed, vision, decisiveness, cutting ability/lateral movement, and power. He hits the whole hard and doesn't shy away from contact. He reminds me of Ricky Williams in college. Him and Dion Lewis are two of the most exciting young backs to watch in college. If we don't choose to re-sign Maroney, whose contract expires after next year, I'd love to add Ryan Williams.
As for this year, I've been really impressed with Montario Hardesty all year long. He's kind of flown under the radar in the SEC with all the talk about Ingram, Tebow, and Mccluster, etc. I love the way Hardesty plays. He's got good but not great speed but has good lateral movement, power, and the desire to fight for every yard. He doesn't go down easily and he's got one of the best spin moves for a RB that I've seen in a while. He's got good hands and when he gets into the open field he can turn on the jets and break away pretty well. I really like his vision and feel for the game. He's built pretty solid at 6'0 215, and I think he'd be a good mid round addition to add to our stable of RB's. I'd much rather see some youthful legs injected into our backfield rather than the older injury prone guys like Morris and Taylor. I see Hardesty as a very underrated prospect who could be great value for the team that drafts him.
Wootton's bulked up from last year's bowl game against Missouri when he looked like Crable. He's listed as 6'6" 280, but I'll bet he breaks 290 at the Combine. He could play 3-4 DE or 4-3 DE, he's not a speed rusher, but he gets pressure on the QB, he's a lane clogger in the passing game, and he can play the run. He'd be good value at #32.
In the two games I watched of him, I just didn't see "it". I saw a player that could adequately play the #5 technique, but not an upgrade over Ty Warren or even Jarvis Green.
This is the first I've seen of him this year, he looked okay, too bad Northwestern doesn't two-gap, it would have helped to see his fit better. I can still see late first value there, though he may slide if teams are looking for speed off the edge.
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