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    For those of you who are college game savvy... Mind posting who to watch for in upcoming bowl games? Day/ time of the game would help too.

    Thanks
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    I will have a listing for each of the Bowl Games up on my site with 3-6 players to watch. It also has the date/time/network on there.

    Here is a listing of the first 7:

    NFL Draft Homework: Bowl Games
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    bookmarked!
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    thanks you so much
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    Nice job. You've put a lot of work into this.

    OT Anthony Davis is an interesting prospect. Some consider him a possible top 10 pick, others a 2nd rounder. I could see a team like Dallas picking him up as a succesor to Flozell Adams, or possibly SF with one of their 2 1st round picks since they need a RT to complement Joe Staley. It will be interesting to see if he really has the footwork to be a LT.

    Ryan Mathews is also intriguing, though with Maroney running well I'm less interested in him than in a complementary back - either a big bruiser or a quick all-purpose guy.
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    The Meinecke Car Care Bowl December 26 is a great game to watch. A lot of intriguing prospects for 2010 and beyond:

    - Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina - 6'5" 260# guy who has been timed in a 4.51 40, 2 time state wrestling champ, brain tumor survivor, supposedly a great kid. Possibly the best DE/OLB candidate in NCAA football right now.

    - Greg Romeus, DE, Pittsburgh - 6'5" 265# guy with a great motor, still developing. Will be interesting to compare him to Quinn and get a sense as to whether he can play in space. One of the more interest 3-4 OLB conversions that I see, and a likely 2010 2nd round pick.

    - Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh - 6'5" 220# athletic playmaker who could be another Randy Moss. Baldwin and Quinn, along with LSU CB Patrick Peterson, are my favorite prospects for 2011.

    - Bruce Carter, LB, North Carolina - has said he is going back for his senior season. Would compete with Sean Weatherspoon, Travis Lewis and Navorro Bowman as the most athletic 4-3 WLB. Makes plays all over the field. A bit small for the Pats at 6'3" 230#, but he's a terrific playmaker.

    - Marvin Austin, DT/DE, North Carolina - 6'3" 305 top recruit who is finally beginning to play like one. Should come out this year. Is he a DT only, or can he play 3-4 DE?

    - Dorin Dickerson, TE, Pittsburgh - a terrific H-back prospect, worth considering for the middle rounds.

    - Deion Lewis, RB, Pittsburgh - 5'8" 195# freshman scatback who is close to breaking Tony Dorsett's freshman rushing record. Dynamic player who could be a Maurice Jones-Drew/Ray Rice kind of guy, perhaps better.

    Should be a fabulous game.
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    The Poinsetta Bowl December 23 should also be an interesting game to watch. Cal runs a 3-4 defense and has a lot of interesting prospects for the Pats beside the ones mentioned in the NEPatriots writeup:

    - Tyson Alualu, DE/DT - 6'3" 295# guy who could go as high as the 2nd round this year. Considered one of the better 3-4 DE prospects.

    - Cameron Jordan, DE - 6'4" 287# junior. The son of former Minnesota Vikings TE Steve Jordan, one of the best 5 technique prospects in the NCAA with a ton of upside. Unlikely that he comes out in 2010, but someone to watch for 2011. Tremendous athleticism and upside.

    Cal's 3-4 defense did by far the best job this season against Toby Gerhart and Stanford's formidable offensive line, which had shredded USC and Oregon. Cal won that battle, and the game, even without Jahvid Best.
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    Absolutely right... I mentioned in the writeup that this game is even better for 2011 Draft homework. Quinn / Carter and also Quan Sturdivant are all great defensive prospects for UNC and Baldwin will be fun to watch too.
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    This kid was the DE/OLB type I thought had the outstanding game against Alabama in the Sugar Bowl.

    12/21/09 - SENIOR BOWL INVITE: Defensive end Koa Misi left a mid-August practice at Ute Field laying flat on a golf cart. The senior suffered a back injury, the extent of which was unknown at the time. "I thought the worse," he recalled. Misi's friends and coaches, however, kept telling him everything would be fine. Turns out they were right. Although the injury kept him out of Utah's season opener against Utah State, Misi more than made up for it. He started the next 11 games and wound up leading all defensive linemen in the Mountain West Conference with 65 tackles — earning first-team all-league honors and an invitation to the Senior Bowl. "It was a scary start to the season when he went down with that back injury. But he's 100 percent now and has had a very good year," said Utah coach Kyle Whittingham. "It's kind of a quiet year in some respects because his statistics have not been as good as maybe he hoped. But that's because he draws a lot of attention." Misi is often getting double-teamed, Whittingham noted, and opposing offenses know where he is and account for him. "It takes away some of the statistics he may have put up. But he's a very important part of our defense," Whittingham explained as the Utes prepared for Wednesday's Poinsettia Bowl game against California. "He's a guy you can count on week in and week out. That's the big thing about him. The coach added that Misi didn't have a bad game all season long. The 6-foot-3, 263-punder from Santa Rosa, Calif., ranks among team and conference leaders in several categories — including tackles for loss (8), sacks (4.5), fumbles caused (0.27 per game) and forced fumbles (3). - Dirk Facer, Deseret News via NFL Draft Scout
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    12/21/09 - Southern California has ruled three players academically ineligible for the Emerald Bowl against Boston College. USC announced Monday that tight end Anthony McCoy and tackle Tyron Smith, both starters, and defensive end Averell Spicer, a key reserve, will not play Dec. 26 in San Francisco. McCoy and Spicer are seniors. Smith is a sophomore. The rulings come three days after USC said it was investigating whether tailback Joe McKnight used an SUV registered to a Los Angeles businessman. The Trojans (8-4) are coming off their worst season since 2001. USC had won seven consecutive Pac-10 championships and played in seven consecutive BCS games before this season. - AP Sports via NFL Draft Scout
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    Hello, all. I'm watching the Hawaii bowl right now, and I'm super impressed with Kevin Basped. His length, speed, power, body control, and active hands really set him apart as a junior pass rusher. I haven't seen many college DEs this year with his polish against the pass. He might not be as effective against the run, although I saw him effectively set the edge a few times, but he can really get after the quarterback. On one play he faked outside, came back hard inside, got his hands underneath the guard's pads, drove him back past the quarterback, and dragged the passer down with one arm. Really impressive.

    The downside is his weight (he's a bit on the light side at #240) , and he doesn't appear to be a full-time player, but also appears to have great upside while also posting good numbers in the meantime (almost twenty sacks over the past two years). I have to assume that at 6'6, he's got the frame to add a good twenty pounds, but that may not be the case. Still, he's a guy to keep an eye on, as sources indicate he wants to declare early. Could be a great late-round pick up to help us kick-start our DE/OLB developmental pipeline (that was for you, Mayo).
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    Thanks. Sounds interesting, though I'm not a huge fan of 6'6" 240# guys who may not have the strength and bulk to play the run. 6'6" 260# guys with athleticism is another matter. Sounds like he has some nice skills, but also like he has a ways to go to become a 3-down player in our system. As a late-round developmental pick I'd be all for it, but not earlier.
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    He had one strong series in the first half where the sack you saw took place, he's not been as impressive otherwise and I feel he'd be smart to stay another year and work on his weight and strength and technique. His counterpart playing on the other side, #55 Dontay Moch, has actually looked better in terms of pressure, plays behind the LOS, and hustle. He's also a junior.
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    Watching my recording of the Rutgers bowl victory over UCF, the OLB name to look at is Rutgers DE George Johnson. He got some consistent pressure on the UCF Redshirt Senior QB, including one to help force a pick six. NFL Draft Scout has him projected as a 7th/UDFA in the draft and reports him as 6'4 1/8" 265.
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    Well, then, I defer to you. I only saw a little of the game (we had company over, so I didn't want to appear too rude), and he impressed me during that small sample. Thanks for the correction! :)
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    No problem, that one series got me feeling hopeful too, but as you noted, he needs to bulk up more and another year in college is just the ticket.
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    Pitt/UNC this afternoon 430p est. has some players to be considered this year. And, also next year. Pitt has a de G.Romeus who might come out. A 4-3 def. end. But, we could use a guy like that. D.Dickerson - te/h-back. Too small for te, we might play him at fb. J.Baldwin is an outstanding soph. wr. Next years draft. H.Hynoski -fb. From my neck of the woods. 3RD YEAR soph. Pure fb.

    UNC has Marvin Austin 4-3 dt. Jr. expected to declare. B.Carter olb who might come out too. R.Quinn olb/de who will return for his senior year.
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    See post #8 in this thread. Already discussed.
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    Pit's junior DEs, Romeus and his counterpart on the other side Jabaal Sheard, had a good bowl game against NC. Good run defense to go with the pass rush, not a lot of pressure, but decent. Romeus did drop in coverage once that I saw, he's not as smooth, but he can learn to do it better in Big Willie style.

    I also liked E. J. Wilson of NC, he showed a lot of hustle, good against the run, some pressure against a dominating Pit O-line. Decent late round/UDFA option.

    If NC's WR Little comes out he'll go early rounds, nice looking big play kid.

    I liked Pit's CB Aaron Berry, he looks like he'll get drafted.

    NC's LT Kyle Jolly played well against Romeus.
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    Grouch. :snob:
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    I didn't see his post Box. I get along fine with Mayo. No offense taken by me. I was disappointed in UNC def. front. Given their reps, would have thought they could slow Pitt down a little more. Dorin Dickerson -fb/te/h-back might be someone to consider on Day III.

    Watching SC/BC. Does T.Mays ever make any plays? He's easily the most over-rated prospect I've seen in years. He just doesn't have the instincts to play S in the NFL.
    Maybe a weak-side lb in a 4-3. But, then he'd only be about a 3-4 round pick. Not a Top 10 like he's projected.
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    :snob: He's still a grouch. :yeeha:

    I'd thought Dickerson was a junior, but I just checked the NCAA stat site and see he's a senior after all. I'd definitely like to see him in a Pats uniform learning true FB duties.

    I was expecting more from NC's front seven, but Pit's OL just flat out beat them.
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    Here's a review of some prospects in upcoming BCS bowl games from Tony Pauline at CNNSI:

    2010 NFL Draft prospects in BCS games - NFL - SI.com

    Of particular interest:

    - Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio St.: "The son of the late Craig "Ironhead" Heyward is well regarded in the scouting community, as was his father, a former first-round pick himself. Heyward is a physically gifted prospect with potential at several positions on the defensive line. The feeling in Columbus at this time is Heyward will return for his senior season. Grade: Mid-First Round"

    - Joe Haden, CB, Florida: "The Gators shutdown cover man has been rightly hailed as the top cornerback in the nation. He must be at his best in the Sugar Bowl as not only is Haden facing the Bearcats potent passing game but also Mardy Gilyard, one of the best downfield threats in the nation. Haden is expected to enter the draft and a good performance could vault him into the top dozen picks next April. Mid-First Round"

    - Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida: "Pouncey has the opportunity to showcase his skills on the national stage and once again prove he's the best center in the nation. He should easily handle the Bearcats smallish defensive front line but scouts will closely inspect Pouncey's ability to get out in space and block in motion, taking on Cincinnati's quick linebackers. Late-First Round"

    - Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida: "Dunlap returns to the field after a DUI charge resulted in a one-game suspension for the SEC title contest. He has all the skills necessary to be an impact defensive player, yet only occasionally plays to his level of ability. Dunlap could have a big game against the Bearcats offensive line, which is limited athletically, if he applies himself for 60 minutes. Late-First Round"

    - Jermaine Cunningham, DE/OLB, FLorida: "Cunningham is a smallish college end who makes up for his size by playing hard for 60 minutes. He's fast off the edge and constantly causes problems for opposing signal-callers. NFL teams are looking at Cunningham as a potential rush linebacker and good workouts prior to April will push his draft grade further north. Third Round"

    - Aaron Hernandez, TE, Florida: "Hernandez has been the favorite target of Tim Tebow this season and has elevated himself into one of the better pass catching tight ends in the nation. He projects as a move tight end in the NFL and the belief is Hernandez will enter the 2010 draft. Third Round"

    - Jerry Hughes, DE/OLB, TCU: "Hughes has been the anchor for one of the nation's better defenses the past two years. He's an athletic pass rusher that also effectively plays in space. Boise State's propensity to mix things up on offense will mentally test Hughes and give NFL scouts a measuring stick on whether or not he can handle the responsibilities of being a fulltime linebacker at the next level. Late-First Round"

    - Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech: "Dwyer burst on the scene as a freshman and has commanded the running attack for the Jackets the past three years. He's a powerful north/south runner who, at times, seems out of place in Paul Johnson's offense, which often moves east/west. The Hawkeyes defense is adept at stopping the run, which will be a challenge for Dwyer, who is expected to enter the draft. Mid-First Round"

    - Demaryius Williams, WR, Georgia Tech: "Dwyer burst on the scene as a freshman and has commanded the running attack for the Jackets the past three years. He's a powerful north/south runner who, at times, seems out of place in Paul Johnson's offense, which often moves east/west. The Hawkeyes defense is adept at stopping the run, which will be a challenge for Dwyer, who is expected to enter the draft. Mid-First Round"

    - Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech: "Morgan leads the ACC in sacks (12) and rates second in tackles for loss (18). He's a fierce pass rusher with the ability to pursue then catch ball handlers from the backside. Morgan is projected by many to the outside linebacker position and is expected to enter the draft. His match-up against Bulaga is one NFL scouts are looking forward to. Late-First Round"

    - Brian Bulaga, OT, Iowa: "Bulaga started off the year hot, meeting the expectations of NFL scouts, before struggling late in the campaign. He's a large athlete that excels as a pass protector and run blocker. Several scouts feel Bulaga would be best inside at guard and may not be able to handle the left tackle position in the NFL. He could quell that criticism today by shutting down Derrick Morgan of Tech, one of the nation's best pass rushers. Late-First round"

    - Amary Spivey, CB, Iowa: "Spievey has risen to the occasion for Iowa throughout the season since transferring from junior college. He's a well-sized cornerback who compares favorably to a pair of former Iowa corners, Bradley Fletcher and Charles Godfrey, both third-round picks in the NFL draft. His battle against Demaryius Thomas will be a measuring stick for Spievey. Third Round"

    Some interesting evaluations. Derrick Morgan looks more like a top 15 pick to me, and Demaryius Williams as a mid-1st round pick seems like a stretch.
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    I'll be watching Greg Hardy's return in the Cotton Bowl. I'll probably try to watch some Jerry Hughes too since I have a gut feeling BB wants to draft him.
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    I have been anything but impressed with Corey Wootton so far. I'm sticking with my 2nd/3rd round grade.
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    I'm really interested in seeing Greg Hardy play his last game ever for Ole Miss. I think he's gonna want to go out with a bang. I had a man crush on him early in the year.

    Also interested in seeing Dunlap and Cunningham play for Florida. I think Cunningham is an underrated player who could be a good add in rounds 3-4. He's pretty explosive off the edge and I think he would benefit by playing in a 3-4 as an OLB.

    I was really anticipating a great game last night in the Va Tech vs Tenn game, but it was a very one sided 2nd half. For the 2011 draft and our two first round picks, Ryan Williams looks like a great back to pick up if he comes out early. He redshirted as a freshman last year so he would eligible if he wanted to come out. He's got everything you look for in a RB. Great speed, vision, decisiveness, cutting ability/lateral movement, and power. He hits the whole hard and doesn't shy away from contact. He reminds me of Ricky Williams in college. Him and Dion Lewis are two of the most exciting young backs to watch in college. If we don't choose to re-sign Maroney, whose contract expires after next year, I'd love to add Ryan Williams.

    As for this year, I've been really impressed with Montario Hardesty all year long. He's kind of flown under the radar in the SEC with all the talk about Ingram, Tebow, and Mccluster, etc. I love the way Hardesty plays. He's got good but not great speed but has good lateral movement, power, and the desire to fight for every yard. He doesn't go down easily and he's got one of the best spin moves for a RB that I've seen in a while. He's got good hands and when he gets into the open field he can turn on the jets and break away pretty well. I really like his vision and feel for the game. He's built pretty solid at 6'0 215, and I think he'd be a good mid round addition to add to our stable of RB's. I'd much rather see some youthful legs injected into our backfield rather than the older injury prone guys like Morris and Taylor. I see Hardesty as a very underrated prospect who could be great value for the team that drafts him.
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    Wootton's bulked up from last year's bowl game against Missouri when he looked like Crable. He's listed as 6'6" 280, but I'll bet he breaks 290 at the Combine. He could play 3-4 DE or 4-3 DE, he's not a speed rusher, but he gets pressure on the QB, he's a lane clogger in the passing game, and he can play the run. He'd be good value at #32.

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