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    all these great unsigned 3-4 OLBs that the Pats will have a chance to sign?
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    hmm

    Newman
    Boulware
    Green
    Rogers
    Caver


    Vrabel can always move outside and we get an ILB. Boulware is my favorite off the list
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    This is what GBNreport had left on their "big board" for LBs whom I liked. Okay, so Brian Iwuh is my first pick to develop behind Rodney, but the rest would be okay at ILB or OLB since taking one would give BB more leeway with Vrabel - and yes, Roach has been signed by NE per Draftdaddy.

    Brian Iwuh LB 6-1, 234 Colorado (SS)
    Eric Henderson DE 6-2, 270 Georgia Tech
    Fred Roach LB 6-2, 257 Alabama
    Mike Kudla DE 6-2, 265 Ohio State
    Oliver Hoyte LB 6-3, 245 North Darrell Adams DE 6-5, 277 Villanova
    *Kai Parham LB 6-3, 255 Virginia
    Brandon Guillory DE 6-4, 253 Louisiana-Monroe
    Shomari Earls LB 6-2, 255 Florida Atlantic

    There are any number of other prospects that were on my Master Board to consider, the thing is, your getting wound up way too soon partner. This draft went nothing like I planned, obviously NEM tapped my direct line to BB and sent in his offensive dream draft in place of my defensive wisdom. :eek:
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    at MLB theres
    Chris Clairborne 6"3 255
    Jamie Sharper 6"3 240
    Earl Holmes 6"0 250
    Orlando Ruff 6"3 253
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    We're doomed. :D
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    Not sure that Newman could do it, but ok.

    Doesn't Boulware have a bunch of injury issues? Its why I didn't list him.

    By Green, do you mean Barrett Green? The guy is 6'0 225. no way he could be an OLB in the Pats 3-4.

    Nick Rogers? Since he only played 3 games for the Dolphins, was he injured last year?

    Caver? Hmm... Not sure he could do it. Guy only played 8 games last year. But ok.

    dsfa
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    i didnt look that much into the players..as for Green..i looked at Shawn Barber accidently i think..sorry

    yes Boulware had injury issues but hes the most experienced and versatile out of all them
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    Heres my personal grocery list
    1.milk
    2.eggs
    3.potatos
    4.cap'n crunch
    5.cream cheese
    6.bacon
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    8.pepto bismol
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    Iwuh was signed by Jax.
    The Pats signed Roach.
    Not sure about the others.
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    1. Martin Nance, WR, Miami (OH)
    2. Spencer Havner, OLB, U.C.L.A.
    3. Kai Parham, ILB, Virginia
    4. Anwar Phillips, CB, Penn St.
    5. Darrell Hunter, CB, Miami (OH)
    6. Charles Gordon, CB, Kansas
    7. Greg Lee, WR, Pittsburgh
    8. Andre Hall, RB, South Florida
    9. Brian Iwuh, OLB, Colorado
    10. Hank Baskett, WR, New Mexico
    11. Darrell Hackney, QB, U.A.B.
    12. Eric Henderson, DE, Georgia Tech
    13. DonTrell Moore, RB, New Mexico
    14. Tim Day, TE, Oregon
    15. Jahmile Addae, S, West Virginia
    16. Marcus Vick, QB, Virginia Tech
    17. Mike Bell, RB, Arizona
    18. Adam Stenavich, OG, Michigan
    19. Charlton Keith, DE, Kansas
    20. Mike Kudla, DE, Ohio St.
    21. Taurean Henderson, RB, Texas Tech
    22. Mike Degory, C, Florida
    23. Dion Byrum, CB, Ohio
    24. Patrick Ross, C, Boston College
    25. Derek Morris, OT, North Carolina St.
    26. Dale Robinson, ILB, Arizona St.
    27. Manaia Brown, DT, B.Y.U.
    28. McKinley Boykin, DT, Ole Miss
    29. Greg Threat, S, Miami (FL)
    30. Miles Austin, WR, Monmouth
    31. Troy Reddick, OT, Auburn
    32. Darrell Brooks, S, Arizona
    33. Gerald Riggs, Jr., RB, Tennessee
    34. Copeland Bryan, DE, Arizona
    35. Cameron Vaughn, OLB, L.S.U.
    36. John Torp, P, Colorado
    37. Tommy Jackson, DT, Auburn
    38. Oliver Hoyte, ILB, North Carolina St.
    39. Brett Basanez, QB, Northwestern
    40. Quadtrine Hill, FB, Miami (FL)
    41. Chijioke Onyenegecha, CB, Oklahoma
    42. Steve Fifita, DT, Utah
    43. Erik Meyer, QB, Eastern Michigan
    44. Willie Evans, DE, Mississippi St.
    45. Cooper Wallace, TE, Auburn
    46. Justin Holland, QB, Colorado St.
    47. Barrick Nealy, QB, Texas St.
    48. John Busing, OLB, Miami (OH)
    49. Scott Ware, S, Southern Cal
    50. Manase Hopoi, DT, Washington

    Signed F Roach rated at 6th round talent...
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    I wouldn't mind any of those guys. They're all more solid than Beisel, at least more solid than last year's Beisel. Claiborne might still have some upside, Sharper's real solid, and Holmes and Ruff have been above average.
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    This is the time now, after the draft, where we flip a 2007 pick to San Diego for Donnie Edwards, and problem solved.
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    This is what i'm hoping for, he still has a couple more years left and probably not cost too much. Fred Roach is also a possible replacement to Ted Johnson in the future, he's not so good in coverage but plays well against the run.
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    i think the sleeper FA is Sharper. He was a pro-bowler playing in the 3-4 for the Texans. Led the league in tackles in '03, he could be a good compliment to go with Colvin, Bruschi and Vrabel.
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    yeah but recent injuries and age are a concern
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    what was his injury last year in Seattle? I know he only played 8 games but i forgot what he did.
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    staph infection in his right knee

    got cut to save a lot of money and they are going young up in seattle
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    id be willing to take a chance on him, like they did last year with Chad Brown. Hopefully, Sharper would turn out better than Brown.
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    Sharper was brought in last year and then the Pats didn't sign him. He ended up signing with Seattle, I believe.

    Maybe the Pats will bring him in to start next to Bruschi. If they do, that would definitely free up Vrabel to move outside, though I would rather keep Vrabel inside to learn the play calling because that was the biggest thing we missed last year inside while Bruschi was out. Someone who recognized plays and could call out the adjustments. Beisel was thrust into the fire there and his inexperience showed.
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    How many games did Beisel start at ILB with Bruschi or Vrabel at his side?

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    MG - What difference does it make? None at all. And it doesn't refute my statement in the least. What you are missing is that I am a BIG Beisel supporter.

    The fact of the matter is that Beisel was thrust into the situation and his inexperience at the position showed. And he's needs to show in the film breakdowns that he can call out the correct assignments before I would have faith in his replacing Bruschi as the person recognizing and calling out the changes. All he showed last year was that he was better at it than Chad Brown. And that's not saying much.

    Vrabel has proven that he is an experienced LB who can effectively play the ILB position and I honestly believe that he has the football intelligence to QUICKLY get up to speed on the calling of the adjustments needed for each play. Much more so than Beisel who has a combined 1.5 years experience playing LB compared to Vrabel's 5+ years.
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    Not sure how many he actually started, but I do remember him playing next to both. IIR, Brown was benched and Vrabel took over at ILB, and then Bruschi came back and I do remember him Beisel in on many plays with Bruschi with Vrabel moving the outside.

    I remember Bruschi not only shaking off Beisel's calls, but pointing out where he should be on the field. As soon as the ball was snapped, however, Beisel was quickly and easily taken out of the play by the OG or C.
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    Yeah, that! And his wife is uber hot, too. Enough there to keep him on the roster!:D
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    The only guys left now are Vick, Tommy Jackson, Reddick, Morris, Lee, Gordon, and Evans.
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    LBs still available...

    The Cowboys drafted Brady James, WILB, a couple of years ago, and Demarcus Ware last year. This Offseason they signed JAX starter Akin Ayodele, SOLB. The draft they went and got Bobby Carpenter.

    I would think that either Brady or Akin is now surplus. Time to trade a 2007 draft pick for either, and solidify the LB corps once again with a vet ex-starter.

    Jamie Sharper, and Craig Clairborne are other possibilities.

    Don't forget Chad Brown. He was cut because he was getting too much money for what he contributed. If they re-signed him for around vet minimum, and actually let him play OLB as he was originally meant to do, it would give us a little depth for the OLB rotation.

    There is more out there than just FA to sign.

    Besides that is the modus operandi for LBs. Let someone else train htem and then sign or trade for a year or three...

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