Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by DaBruinz, Apr 30, 2006.
all these great unsigned 3-4 OLBs that the Pats will have a chance to sign?
Top players that went undrafted:
GBN's list of:
Thanks drew, but I am looking for the NFL FREE AGENTS, not the undrafted guys. I have a list of the undrafted free agents from nfldraftscout.com
Hmm.. From that list, the potential 3-4 olbs inlcude:
Brady Smith (he'd have to convert)
Hmmm.. Pretty slim pickings there.
Vrabel can always move outside and we get an ILB. Boulware is my favorite off the list
This is what GBNreport had left on their "big board" for LBs whom I liked. Okay, so Brian Iwuh is my first pick to develop behind Rodney, but the rest would be okay at ILB or OLB since taking one would give BB more leeway with Vrabel - and yes, Roach has been signed by NE per Draftdaddy.
Brian Iwuh LB 6-1, 234 Colorado (SS)
Eric Henderson DE 6-2, 270 Georgia Tech
Fred Roach LB 6-2, 257 Alabama
Mike Kudla DE 6-2, 265 Ohio State
Oliver Hoyte LB 6-3, 245 North Darrell Adams DE 6-5, 277 Villanova
*Kai Parham LB 6-3, 255 Virginia
Brandon Guillory DE 6-4, 253 Louisiana-Monroe
Shomari Earls LB 6-2, 255 Florida Atlantic
There are any number of other prospects that were on my Master Board to consider, the thing is, your getting wound up way too soon partner. This draft went nothing like I planned, obviously NEM tapped my direct line to BB and sent in his offensive dream draft in place of my defensive wisdom.
at MLB theres
Chris Clairborne 6"3 255
Jamie Sharper 6"3 240
Earl Holmes 6"0 250
Orlando Ruff 6"3 253
Not sure that Newman could do it, but ok.
Doesn't Boulware have a bunch of injury issues? Its why I didn't list him.
By Green, do you mean Barrett Green? The guy is 6'0 225. no way he could be an OLB in the Pats 3-4.
Nick Rogers? Since he only played 3 games for the Dolphins, was he injured last year?
Caver? Hmm... Not sure he could do it. Guy only played 8 games last year. But ok.
i didnt look that much into the players..as for Green..i looked at Shawn Barber accidently i think..sorry
yes Boulware had injury issues but hes the most experienced and versatile out of all them
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Iwuh was signed by Jax.
The Pats signed Roach.
Not sure about the others.
1. Martin Nance, WR, Miami (OH)
2. Spencer Havner, OLB, U.C.L.A.
3. Kai Parham, ILB, Virginia
4. Anwar Phillips, CB, Penn St.
5. Darrell Hunter, CB, Miami (OH)
6. Charles Gordon, CB, Kansas
7. Greg Lee, WR, Pittsburgh
8. Andre Hall, RB, South Florida
9. Brian Iwuh, OLB, Colorado
10. Hank Baskett, WR, New Mexico
11. Darrell Hackney, QB, U.A.B.
12. Eric Henderson, DE, Georgia Tech
13. DonTrell Moore, RB, New Mexico
14. Tim Day, TE, Oregon
15. Jahmile Addae, S, West Virginia
16. Marcus Vick, QB, Virginia Tech
17. Mike Bell, RB, Arizona
18. Adam Stenavich, OG, Michigan
19. Charlton Keith, DE, Kansas
20. Mike Kudla, DE, Ohio St.
21. Taurean Henderson, RB, Texas Tech
22. Mike Degory, C, Florida
23. Dion Byrum, CB, Ohio
24. Patrick Ross, C, Boston College
25. Derek Morris, OT, North Carolina St.
26. Dale Robinson, ILB, Arizona St.
27. Manaia Brown, DT, B.Y.U.
28. McKinley Boykin, DT, Ole Miss
29. Greg Threat, S, Miami (FL)
30. Miles Austin, WR, Monmouth
31. Troy Reddick, OT, Auburn
32. Darrell Brooks, S, Arizona
33. Gerald Riggs, Jr., RB, Tennessee
34. Copeland Bryan, DE, Arizona
35. Cameron Vaughn, OLB, L.S.U.
36. John Torp, P, Colorado
37. Tommy Jackson, DT, Auburn
38. Oliver Hoyte, ILB, North Carolina St.
39. Brett Basanez, QB, Northwestern
40. Quadtrine Hill, FB, Miami (FL)
41. Chijioke Onyenegecha, CB, Oklahoma
42. Steve Fifita, DT, Utah
43. Erik Meyer, QB, Eastern Michigan
44. Willie Evans, DE, Mississippi St.
45. Cooper Wallace, TE, Auburn
46. Justin Holland, QB, Colorado St.
47. Barrick Nealy, QB, Texas St.
48. John Busing, OLB, Miami (OH)
49. Scott Ware, S, Southern Cal
50. Manase Hopoi, DT, Washington
Signed F Roach rated at 6th round talent...
I wouldn't mind any of those guys. They're all more solid than Beisel, at least more solid than last year's Beisel. Claiborne might still have some upside, Sharper's real solid, and Holmes and Ruff have been above average.
This is the time now, after the draft, where we flip a 2007 pick to San Diego for Donnie Edwards, and problem solved.
This is what i'm hoping for, he still has a couple more years left and probably not cost too much. Fred Roach is also a possible replacement to Ted Johnson in the future, he's not so good in coverage but plays well against the run.
i think the sleeper FA is Sharper. He was a pro-bowler playing in the 3-4 for the Texans. Led the league in tackles in '03, he could be a good compliment to go with Colvin, Bruschi and Vrabel.
yeah but recent injuries and age are a concern
what was his injury last year in Seattle? I know he only played 8 games but i forgot what he did.
staph infection in his right knee
got cut to save a lot of money and they are going young up in seattle
id be willing to take a chance on him, like they did last year with Chad Brown. Hopefully, Sharper would turn out better than Brown.
Sharper was brought in last year and then the Pats didn't sign him. He ended up signing with Seattle, I believe.
Maybe the Pats will bring him in to start next to Bruschi. If they do, that would definitely free up Vrabel to move outside, though I would rather keep Vrabel inside to learn the play calling because that was the biggest thing we missed last year inside while Bruschi was out. Someone who recognized plays and could call out the adjustments. Beisel was thrust into the fire there and his inexperience showed.
How many games did Beisel start at ILB with Bruschi or Vrabel at his side?
MG - What difference does it make? None at all. And it doesn't refute my statement in the least. What you are missing is that I am a BIG Beisel supporter.
The fact of the matter is that Beisel was thrust into the situation and his inexperience at the position showed. And he's needs to show in the film breakdowns that he can call out the correct assignments before I would have faith in his replacing Bruschi as the person recognizing and calling out the changes. All he showed last year was that he was better at it than Chad Brown. And that's not saying much.
Vrabel has proven that he is an experienced LB who can effectively play the ILB position and I honestly believe that he has the football intelligence to QUICKLY get up to speed on the calling of the adjustments needed for each play. Much more so than Beisel who has a combined 1.5 years experience playing LB compared to Vrabel's 5+ years.
Not sure how many he actually started, but I do remember him playing next to both. IIR, Brown was benched and Vrabel took over at ILB, and then Bruschi came back and I do remember him Beisel in on many plays with Bruschi with Vrabel moving the outside.
I remember Bruschi not only shaking off Beisel's calls, but pointing out where he should be on the field. As soon as the ball was snapped, however, Beisel was quickly and easily taken out of the play by the OG or C.
Yeah, that! And his wife is uber hot, too. Enough there to keep him on the roster!
The only guys left now are Vick, Tommy Jackson, Reddick, Morris, Lee, Gordon, and Evans.
LBs still available...
The Cowboys drafted Brady James, WILB, a couple of years ago, and Demarcus Ware last year. This Offseason they signed JAX starter Akin Ayodele, SOLB. The draft they went and got Bobby Carpenter.
I would think that either Brady or Akin is now surplus. Time to trade a 2007 draft pick for either, and solidify the LB corps once again with a vet ex-starter.
Jamie Sharper, and Craig Clairborne are other possibilities.
Don't forget Chad Brown. He was cut because he was getting too much money for what he contributed. If they re-signed him for around vet minimum, and actually let him play OLB as he was originally meant to do, it would give us a little depth for the OLB rotation.
There is more out there than just FA to sign.
Besides that is the modus operandi for LBs. Let someone else train htem and then sign or trade for a year or three...
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