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Could Mike Griffin be the best "S" fit for NE?

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  1. Mogamedogz

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    Considering Revis and Willis are both gone by the time we pick, could Griffin be the BPA on the pats board?? I REALLY love Griffins game.

    He is a nice mix of "intelligence", "aggressiveness", "versatility", and "leadership ability"; a proto-typical Bill Belichick DB.

    Griffin is talented enough to make an immediate impact in our secondary. I think he would thrive under the tutelage of Harrison.

    Like Rodney, he possesses a natural ability to recognize plays immediately, and is swift in pursuit of the action.

    In addition to having solid coverage and “ball hawking” skills, he is also a tremendous Special Teams player, with a knack for blocking punts.


    Check out his highlight reel... watch the "Heads up" play he makes @ :31 seconds into the video. -Griffin Link-

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    I'm just not shopping for a 200 lb. FS, especially in the first round. I like the 220 lb laddies who start showing up in the third round since I'm looking for another SS who can play FS, LB, maybe "big" CB because there are a couple of them too, and Special Teams. Griffin & Nelson sound like good kids, but they aren't what I hungry for - beef.
     
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    As long as you don't bring up Aaron Rouse we cool, lol!
     
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    yeah no rouse here either. Gattis or Jackson for me.
     
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    i like merriweather, or griffin if we are going S.....id really like houston,revis....
    btw where is hall supposed to go, there was alot of talk about him during the season but i havent heard much about his draft projections...
     
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    I think he falls in the first round. Wouldn't mind Hall at all.
     
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    i think Landry would obviously be the best fit but 2nd would probably be Griffin. i wanna say Meriweather but people would get on me about his stomping incident so i wont bother

    but take it away and Meriweather is a leader, smart player, playmaker, hard hitter, plays well against run and pass.

    Griffin is a lesser playmaker but a better overall tackler than anyone but Landry and hes bigger than Meriweather-Nelson
     
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    Griffin looks like a heady player. He also looks to be an excellent ST gunner which would also improve that unit. So assuming that Willis does not drop to 24 nor does a stud cornerback drop to 24 then yes I could live with Griffin as the Pats 1st round choice. He would upgrade 2 units at once and I would never underestimate special teams in BB's eyes. Griffin also shows to be a solid tackler in almost all those plays. I know it's highlight clips but still the form looks good. Also the last play starting at 3:38 was pretty amazing because I had to rewind it to appreciate it. Griffin strips the ball first then still managed to catch the defender by the ankles for the tackle "just in case." I thought he had messed up the tackle and had to make a desperation ankle grab, but it seems to me that he must have stripped the ball before the tackle took place. Can someone take a look at this and confirm. Did he strip the ball first or did the ball come out as a result of the ankle tackle? Hmm I'm not sure now.

    This scout has Griffin rated as more of a top of the 2nd round prospect.
    http://seahawks.scout.com/2/626739.html

    Hrrm. I guess I still covet Reggie Nelson more. :)

    Ran a 4.3 on his pro day! :eek:
    http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070308/GATORS01/70308003

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    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=5953
     
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    I still like Merriweather myself but I realize that Griffin's ST play will push him up a lot in Belichick's mind.
     
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    Deja Vu all over again. Your link is the same story as the link I posted about Griffin. Just with different web addresses indicated! :)
     
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    LOL. That story really backs up the Eugene Wilson comparison.
     
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    I like Griffin at 28, he and some of the OG/OT combos look like the best value. I am not worried about Griffin's size especially at FS, just look at Bob Sanders, Ed Reed, Polamalu for impact players that play at around 200 lbs.

    Side Note - Polamalu is a free agent after this season... hmm...

    I think Griffin has a lower upside than Nelson but don't think Nelson will be there at 24 so Griffin becomes a very good value pick at 28.

    What I like most about him is he can tackle, a missed tackle or bad angle by a Safety always results in a big play (see Antrell Hawkins).

    Football Futures lists him at 23
    http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/prospects/michael_griffin.html
    "In a safety class that is shaping up to be very talented at the top, Griffin has solidified himself amongst the elite. He is arguably the top safety in the draft, stacking up with Landry and Nelson. He will have an impact from the start, and could be a pro bowler someday."
     
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    Yeah I like Landry and Nelson better because they are faster with more upside. But Griffin has good all around skills. Add his solid tackling ability to his excellent ST play and you have what looks to be a Patriots type player. He has lower upside than the other two safeties but it might be worth reaching for him at 28 because he would go early in the 2nd and Safety is an area of need for the Pats.

    LOL, adding Polamalu to this team would be ridiculously good. I don't think the Steelers are dumb enough to let him go though. He will be tagged and extended.

     
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    I agree with most of this. Except for the fact that Griffin has lower upside than Nelson (in the Pats system). Nelson may have the better natural physical ability, but in the right situation, Griffin's upside could be just as high as Nelson's.

    The problem with taking Griffin @ 1.28, is the risk of losing him to Philly; who I am fairly certain will take him if we leave him on the board.

    My thinking is...if we dont take a S @ 1.24, we probably will not take one in the first round. I just dont see them taking Merri-Thug.
     
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    lol sorry wasnt looking :(
     
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    What if Landry falls to 17 or so do you pull the trigger on a trade?
     
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    IF Landry falls to 16 NE better trade with GB. You know the 2 for 2 deal i've been talking about.
     
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    Landry and Harris. I will be doing cart-wheels. If I could that is ;)
     
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    I'd pull the trigger on a trade at ANY point in the draft if I knew it would get us high enough to take Landry.
     
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