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    Could Andy Reid and Bill Belichick Team Up Next Season?
    By: Derek Havens

    Late in last Sunday's game, Eagles fans were chanting ?Fire Andy.? While I do not believe Philadelphia should fire Andy Reid, if they were to let him go, should the Patriots be interested?...

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    After being a HC for so long, it is difficult to imagine Reid being comfortable having to answer to a HC.

    Would Reid wan't to make major changes to the Pats offense, and would he be allowed to? Unless Reid feels he is done being a HC, he would probably be in demand within a years time, which would leave the Pats back a square one.
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    Don't we usually do this with cut players, now we are going to do this with fired coaches?
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    I have never gotten the Andy Reid love. Bill says he's a good coach. Probably does know a lot more about x's and o's than say a Dungy, but his niche seems to be rehabbing bad boys, although his track record is actually spotty. His teams aren't particularly accountable or disciplined. His defense has been crap despite all the expensive talent ever since Jimmy Johnson passed away. He is loyal to a fault and that goes from QB's to OLine coaches turned DC... His clock management is legendary. He has an odd way of both undercutting and stubbornly backing his talent. He let Donovan talk him into TO and then let the two of them tear each other and his team apart.

    The media used to talk up the Big Show (Holmgren) and Shannahan in a similar vein. And even Fisher. Never got it there, either. I think Eagles fans while obnoxious were onto something a while ago. Hard to pull the trigger now with money invested in Vick though... They were right about McNabb, too. It also gags me when the media claims similarities between this organization and Lurie's. Other than an owner who grew up here, there are none.

    Reid won't go back to coordinating or being someone's assistant. We already have an assistant HC. And I wouldn't want him anywhere around my offense, he ballaxed his own for years because of stubborn ill conceived convictions. He's such a genius his teams can never get over the hump...
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    He's not even fired, and he's prb not on the hot seat either, just some stupid, ignorant/drunk fans popping off.
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    If you guys think BOB is fast to abandon the run game then you're going to love Andy Reid.
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    Andy's right up there with BB when it comes to question dodging, informationless pressers. It'd be fun to watch.

    As far as OC, I only know what he's done as a head coach and that's been pretty good with the exception of Vick and a bunch of other things. lol
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    If it didn't happen with Gruden, it's not going to happen with Reid. (Gruden's even a Bon Jovi fan!)
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    No.

    Two reasons.

    1) I doubt that Reid would play second fiddle to anyone, especially someone who is as control-oriented as Belichick when it comes to his D, when he will have opportunities to run his own show again either in the NFL or in a major College program (Philadelphia is in Pennsylvania and I'll let you figure it out. Hint: think major college program in Pennsylvania in a lot of trouble and looking for new leadership).

    2) I'm really not sold on Reid either as an X's and O's guy at BB's level or as a motivator; personally, I'd rather have Romeo back.
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    Why do you not consider Dungy a good X's and O's guy? He seemed to me to be a very good D Coordinator. At Minnesota, his defense was ranked #1. He turned Tampa around, mostly thru defense.
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    Considering that reputation, it's amazing the LeSean McCoy is the leading rusher in the NFL.
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    Agree wholeheartedly with one minor correction in bold.
    Never understood why Reid in particular was so worshiped by the pundits.
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    if the Eagels Do fire him he will get a HC job in days by some team ( Vikings, jaguars, ) and what would he do here he runs a west coast offense, IMO he takes the year off and then picks a team he can win with
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    I'd rather see Norv Turner brought in as OC once he gets canned in SD.
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    Dungy knew what he knew, Tampa 2. He was a glorified DC and a figurehead HC whose main job was to motivate and maintain an even keel in an organization with lots of big egos (Polian, Manning). He inherited that offense and the men (Manning, Moore, Mudd) who ran it and he stayed out of their way essentially while coaching up the inexpensive defense Polian needed him to to facilitate that offense... But even then, as with the whole outfit, they only barely managed to win one largely because we faltered in the second half of a conference championship game Vinatieri had kicked the Colts into and that left them to face down the mighty Rex Grossman led Bears we had pummeled earlier... He couldn't get it done in Tampa either, although ADHD Gruden was able to get them over the hump the following season before totally unraveling in a sea of egos (his own included).

    Gruden is another guy who knows his **** (despite acting like an idiot on TV) but I wouldn't want him within 100 yards of any segment of my team. I remember watching a program once where he was supposedly coaching the QB and offense...and it was as if his goal was the make or break young QB's and receivers by verbally abusing/confusing/demeaning them...

    Bill said this week he's a tough man to work for. I don't think that is truly the case. He demands effort and accountability, but he also protects his players by keeping everything from criticism to praise to discipline in house. Guys who get it flourish under him. And they will tell you you always know where you stand. Just don't expect him to tolerate foolishness or blow smoke up your skirt. The tradeoff is unlike most of his so called peers he will never publicly throw you under the bus. If you land there it's usually of your own doing...
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    They need to eject Juan castillo, fans hate em offenses love em.
    There was a replay on NFL network showing Nnamdi lined up with Edleman at slot:confused:

    I know he's not 100%, still wierd
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    Hell, no.... He's been a glorified OC in SD and ultimately that has been their failure... Honestly, I don't get what some of you think you see in these failures...
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    But that was Andy's hand picked candidate... And what transpired just underscored both the stubborn streak and the inability to step in and fix his mistake.
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    So you don't consider what he did in Minnesota and Tampa to involve being good with X's and O's? I just want to make sure I understand what you're saying.
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    Philly's in PA, but State College is in Pennsyltucky. :p
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    Across the board?? No. Bill can run or deconstruct any defense or offense for that matter. Dungy knows what he knows. Which is why the Colts mantra was do what we do...they had no other choice... Manning on his own eventually figured out how to beat Bill's myriad defenses with some consistency. Dungy was just along for the ride. His biggest contributions were getting the most bang for Polian's bucks out of a Tampa 2 defense and stabilizing an organization that as I said had some egos clashing on the heels of Mora's classic meltdown...
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    IF Reid gets fired, I think he has enough of a reputation built up to get another HC job if he wants it. I don't think he needs to go the coordinator route like a lot of guys do to get back there.

    In fact, with Del Rio gone, he might be a great fit in Jacksonville. The Jaguars are 4th in yards allowed and 5th in points allowed, so the defense is there. They need someone to tutor Gabbert and get that offense rebuilt, which Reid just might be able to do. And now is the time to try to take charge of that division, with the Colts' QB future in question they no longer have a choke hold on it.
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    I would rather see Del Rio as DC than Reid as OC
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    I'll clarify, Eject Reid and his bad decisions, Jaun and Vick are at the top of that list. I understand giving guy's a chance at a new start but biting on that contract was a bit to premature.

    The egg thrown in the 4rth quarter for an interception against GB last play-off game summed his career, a big bust.

    agreed with your comments, spot on imo
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    Bill employs the same ground rules for coaches as players, have to check your ego at the door and keep your mouth shut... Never gonna happen. Mangini will return here first...and I don't think that's gonna happen in my lifetime.
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    WOW! I can't understand the hate for BOB. I'm not sure, but in the 2 years that he's been in control of the offense haven't the Pats had either the best offense in most categories, or at least been in the top three. How exactly would ANY new OC make it better? :rolleyes:

    The Pats run a rather unique attack that has evolved from Weiss to McDaniel, and now to BOB. Its the ONLY system that Tom Brady has ever known, and there is no question that anyone is going to change it at this point. So the end result would be that any new OC from the outside would have to learn OUR system rather than establish their own. What would be the sense in THAT!

    Besides Andy Reid's best quality seems to be developing QBs. He must have done a miraculous job with McNabb, given his total lack of success after he's left the Eagles, and the job he's done with Vick and Vince has been apparent. Reid's he guy who you go to if you need to improve your QB situation. That's not a need here......obviously

    Remember the same people who complain about BOB, are the same ones who were ready to capitulate three minutes into the Eagle's game. Not one of your better concepts, Derek.
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    This article is plain retawded.
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    I think Reid would jump at a chance to come to Foxborough. The Krafts throw a nice lunch spread and I know Andy would love Prime Rib Thursday and those lobster roll appetizers. If he can sneak McCoy out of Philly, all the better
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    The likelihood of belichik making Brady learn a new offensive system with new terminology is zero, they have deliberately maintained the same basic system for his entire career and there is no way Belichik will change that to bring in any coach. The coach has to learn this system, it isn't being thrown out for anyone.
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    No, he won't be here. He has a HC gig and the top QB prospect in a long time waiting for him in Indy if he gets canned. Reid brought his team to 5 NFC championships and a SB, he's great with quarterbacks, and easily one of the better coaches in the NFL. His hob is only at risk because he plays for the ****tiest fanbase in the history of professional sports.

    Philly is a disgrace to my state. McNabb was one of the classiest players in the NFL, brought Philly the most success it had ever seen, and he got run out of town.

    Besides, our offense is just fine, BOB isn't an awful OC by any means. The slow starts are probably more on Brady starting slow, hopefully only because of his injury, but his accuracy is somewhat off early. Brady also has full liberty to check into any play he wants if he doesn't like what he sees, BOB gives the initial play, Brady can do what he wants from there.

    I'd rather bring in a good DC at let our undermanned coaching staff get back to what they do best instead of having multiple jobs each. I think a good defensive draft and a good DC will allow us to become more than a 'bend but don't break' kind of D that sometimes ...breaks.
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