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    I know, I was thinking Obama's resignation or impeachment or the one I really want is seeing that usurper being carried out of the white house in HAND CUFFS!!
     
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    I was thinking the same.

    It seems just about every President since Reagen has done something similar. Has Congress ever filed suit against an administration?
     
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    Translation: "...seeing that uppity nigger dragged behind a pickup truck down the road to the hangin' tree..."
     
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    What a difference three years makes. If Dubya had gone into Libya, Kucinich would be a lone voice in the wind and the GOP would be calling him an America hating traitor.

    Elect a black guy and suddenly the GOP becomes an anti-war party. Who would've figured that out..

    Get out of Lybia, get out of Iraq, get out of Afghanistan and close 50% of our overseas bases..

    That sound you are hearing in the distance is Ronald Raygun rolling over in his grave..

    Perhaps it is the apocalypse Kucinich is being joined by the right wingnuts..
     
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    We're getting a little out of hand here aren't we? So one guy here makes a remark and it's proclaimed racism, and now anyone fed up with the wars is only so because the President is black? I'm sure there's politics motivating some but the racism stuff is offensive.
     
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    It's not just "one guy here," PatsSB - and I don't think it's a stretch of the imagination to see racism in some of the actions/reactions to everything Obama does or says.

    2 recent events:

    Ken Barnes a Black Republican activist from Sacramento quit the party in disgust because of the constant racist depictions of President Obama. Barnes has been a Republican activist for the last 13 years, and he held a number of party posts over those years including serving on the California Republican Party Executive Committee.

    Excerpt from an OpEd he wrote:

    "Over the past two years, we have seen Republicans use long-held racist imagery in portrayals of Obama. The president has been depicted as a communist witch doctor, a man inclined to plant watermelons on the White House lawn, and we watched in disbelief as his face was placed on an “Obama Buck Food Stamp” along with stereotyped pictures of fried chicken, barbecue ribs, Kool-Aid and the obligatory watermelon.
    What does any of this have to do with public policy or conservative values? Here is a man who excelled academically at the finest schools in the world, has a wonderful in-tact family, worked hard and rose to become president of the United States. Yet in spite of his accomplishments, the president is still labeled an illegitimate, socialist, African witch doctor and has his face superimposed on a chimpanzee.

    If this can be done to a black man who is the leader of the free world, how long will it be before fellow Republicans insert my face on a chimpanzee?"


    Daily Kos: Ca. Black Republican activist quits party disgusted with the racism

    And this from FoxNews:

    During the opening of Fox Business' Follow the Money on Friday, Eric Bolling teased a segment about the White House hosting the president of Gabon by saying, "Guess who's coming to dinner? A dictator. Mr. Obama shares a laugh with one of Africa's kleptocrats. It's not the first time he's had a hoodlum in the hizzouse."

    Later in the show, Bolling teased the segment again: "Smile for the birdie. Our president's sitting with one of Africa's most wanted. It's not the first time he's had a hood in the big crib."

    This time, an image of Bongo with a flashing tooth showed up as Bolling said, "Smile for the birdie":

    Bolling began the segment itself by saying, in part, "So what's with all the hoods in the hizzy? A month after the White House hosted the rapper Common, who glorifies violence on cops, the president opened his doors to one of Africa's most evil dictators. Here's Ali Bongo, the Gabonese president, who's been accused of human rights violations and plundering billions of his country's dollars."

    Another guest, Columbia University professor Marc Lamont Hill, told Bolling: "The president's not inviting [Bongo] over to the White House to eat s'mores and watch movies. They're talking, they're meeting." Bolling replied, "How do you know what they did, Hill? How do you know what they did? Maybe they did have s'mores and watch movies. Maybe they watched a basketball game."


    Fox's Eric Bolling: Obama Is Hosting "Hoodlum" In "The Hizzouse" | Media Matters for America

    Just for the record: Obama met with Ali Bongo as a state meeting, not as a friend, he took him to task for the way in which he governs and Ali Bongo does not have a gold tooth as portrayed on the show.

    Bolling has offered a half-hearted apology after enough people complained loudly and action was taken by several civil rights groups in an effort to have him removed from FoxNews.

    This kind of stuff is not "politics," this kind of stuff is "racist." It's not that hard to tell the difference in most cases.
     
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    More allegations of racism. Surprise, surprise...
     
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    Correct that kind of stuff is not politics. I'm not ruling out racism. The President is black and many racists hide behind politics to be racist, undercover so to speak. I get that, but "Elect a black guy and suddenly the GOP becomes an anti-war party."? I think the GOP would likely be the anti war party no matter what democrat was president, principled politicians that they are. No you wouldn't get the Hizzy house talk and all that from some of these guys but they would be just as anti everything the Dems were doing.
     
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    Bush went to congress before going into Afghanistan and Iraq. Obama should go to congress about Libya. Simple. If you have examples of where this was not done for an extended mission like this (as opposed to a 1 day raid for example) please feel free to enlighten us.
     
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    Ron Paul, too
     
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    What about Grenada in 1983?
     
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    How long were we in Grenada?


    How long have we been in Libya?


    There is a time factor that is part of the requirement, he isn't behaving according to the law.

    I haven't posted much on Libya. I do recall the hue and cry about how Iraq hadn't attacked us and how bad it was to conduct a preemptive war. Why is this a better preemptive war?

    If we are going into Libya why are we not doing anything about Assad and his behavior? (Hint the EU has oil deals with Libya and not with Syria).
     
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    Consider yourself enlightened. :)

    The idea of suing the President for violation of the War Powers Resolution is not a new one. This was tried, for example, by some members of Congress during the Kosovo operations in 1999 when, similar to this situation, President Clinton conducted major military operations in conjunction with NATO past the sixty day deadline in the War Powers Resolution. Some members of Congress sued, but the Court ended up tossing the lawsuit out.

    What does the Libya lawsuit mean? – Global Public Square - CNN.com Blogs
     
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    There are no US troops on the ground in Libya. As much as you hate it the Administration is working with NATO on this little skirmish. Just about every US President has tried to blow up Gaddafi. Why are you outraged now?
     
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    Darryl likes your post even though it originated from me...guess you must be more left than me Gainzo! ;)
     
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    Its all good :D

    Either way I hate that some posters, both on the left and right, will not acknowledge that their side f'd up. Then again that pretty much sums up politics in 2011.
     
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    Doesn't matter in terms of the law. Obama should follow the law. Very simple really.

    I am not outraged, I am amused. The only attack on Libya I am aware of was by Reagan, after he sponsored attacks on US troops in Germany and PanAm 103.

    What I am amused by is Obama going for regieme change against a guy how hadn't done anything in 20+ years he even gave up his nuclear weapons program. The left was outraged about taking out Saddam yet nothing (except Kuchinich) in this preemptive attack attack against a guy who posed no threat to the US.
     

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