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    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." (Benjamin Franklin)

    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." (Thomas Jefferson)

    “The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.” (Thomas Jefferson)

    "Those who trade liberty for security have neither." (John Adams)

    "Those who hammer their guns onto plow shares will plow for those who do not." (Thomas Jefferson)

    “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” (Thomas Jefferson)

    “It is clear from the words of the founders of this country that the right to ‘keep and bear arms’ is an inviolable personal right. They protected this right by the Second Amendment to the federal constitution and by provisions of the constitutions of the states. This is a subject for debate only by those ignorant of our history, or those that purposely wish to deny us our rights and, ultimately, to subjugate us under the tyranny of government perverted from its constitutional foundations.” (Rich Mason)

    “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” (Richard Henry Lee)

    “Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” (Tench Coxe, Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788)

    “The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that… it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” (Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824)

    “...to disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them…” (George Mason)

    “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” (Jefferson’s Commonplace Book)

    “The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that… it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” (Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824)

    "They'll have to shoot me first to take my gun." (Roy Rogers)

    “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” ( Thomas Jefferson)

    “My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.” (Thomas Jefferson)

    “To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.” (Thomas Jefferson)

    ( Katie Couric, while interviewing a Marine sniper, asked: “What do you feel when you shoot a terrorist?” --- The Marine shrugged and replied, “A slight recoil.” )

    "An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject" (Unknown)

    "A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone." (Unknown)

    "If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words." (Unknown)

    "Criminals love gun control--it makes their jobs safer." (Unknown)

    "Gun control is not about guns; it's about control." (Unknown)

    "Free men do not ask permission to bear arms." (Unknown)

    "Know guns, know peace and safety. No guns, no peace nor safety." (Unknown)

    "Firearm safety – it’s a matter for education, not legislation. " (Unknown)
     
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    Do you have a link to this beautiful body of prose? :D
     
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    Ah crap, now I have to go find it now? I'm not as quick on the draw as I used to be...hold on. ;)
     
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    You should double check the veracity of these quotes.

    For instance:

    Can't be found in any of Jefferson's writtings. Same with this one:

    this is also not from Jefferson:

    and this quote is likely from a speech about Jefferson:

    The closest thing that can be found in his writtings is "History, in general, only informs us what bad government is."

    The quote below:

    Is likely a misquote from the Virginia act for establishing religious freedom, and when put into context has an entirely different meaning:

    This one is false as well:

     
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    December 11, 2012. On Tuesday, 22-year-old Jacob Tyler Roberts killed 2 people and himself with a stolen rifle in Clackamas Town Center, Oregon. His motive is unknown.

    September 27, 2012. Five were shot to death by 36-year-old Andrew Engeldinger at Accent Signage Systems in Minneapolis, MN. Three others were wounded. Engeldinger went on a rampage after losing his job, ultimately killing himself.

    August 5, 2012. Six Sikh temple members were killed when 40-year-old US Army veteran Wade Michael Page opened fire in a gurdara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Four others were injured, and Page killed himself.

    July 20, 2012. During the midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, CO, 24-year-old James Holmes killed 12 people and wounded 58. Holmes was arrested outside the theater.

    May 29, 2012. Ian Stawicki opened fire on Cafe Racer Espresso in Seattle, WA, killing 5 and himself after a citywide manhunt.

    April 6, 2012. Jake England, 19, and Alvin Watts, 32, shot 5 black men in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in racially motivated shooting spree. Three died.

    April 2, 2012. A former student, 43-year-old One L. Goh killed 7 people at Oikos University, a Korean Christian college in Oakland, CA. The shooting was the sixth-deadliest school massacre in the US and the deadliest attack on a school since the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre.

    October 14, 2011. Eight people died in a shooting at Salon Meritage hair salon in Seal Beach, CA. The gunman, 41-year-old Scott Evans Dekraai, killed six women and two men dead, while just one woman survived. It was Orange County’s deadliest mass killing.

    September 6, 2011. Eduardo Sencion, 32, entered an IHOP restaurant in Carson City, NV and shot 12 people. Five died, including three National Guard members.

    January 8, 2011. Former Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-AZ) was shot in the head when 22-year-old Jared Loughner opened fire on an event she was holding at a Safeway market in Tucson, AZ. Six people died, including Arizona District Court Chief Judge John Roll, one of Giffords’ staffers, and a 9-year-old girl. 19 total were shot. Loughner has been sentenced to seven life terms plus 140 years, without parole.

    August 3, 2010. Omar S. Thornton, 34, gunned down Hartford Beer Distributor in Manchester, CT after getting caught stealing beer. Nine were killed, including Thornton, and two were injured.

    November 5, 2009. Forty-three people were shot by Army psychiatrist Nidal Malik Hasan at the Fort Hood army base in Texas. Hasan reportedly yelled “Allahu Akbar!” before opening fire, killing 13 and wounding 29 others.

    April 3, 2009. Jiverly Wong, 41, opened fire at an immigration center in Binghamton, New York before committing suicide. He killed 13 people and wounded 4.

    March 29, 2009. Eight people died in a shooting at the Pinelake Health and Rehab nursing home in Carthage, NC. The gunman, 45-year-old Robert Stewart, was targeting his estranged wife who worked at the home and survived. Stewart was sentenced to life in prison.

    February 14, 2008. Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University, killing 6 and wounding 21. The gunman shot and killed himself before police arrived. It was the fifth-deadliest university shooting in US history.

    February 7, 2008. Six people died and two were injured in a shooting spree at the City Hall in Kirkwood, Missouri. The gunman, Charles Lee Thornton, opened fire during a public meeting after being denied construction contracts he believed he deserved. Thornton was killed by police.

    December 5, 2007. A 19-year-old boy, Robert Hawkins, shot up a department store in the Westroads Mall in Omaha, NE. Hawkins killed 9 people and wounded 4 before killing himself. The semi-automatic rifle he used was stolen from his stepfather’s house.

    April 16, 2007. Virginia Tech became the site of the deadliest school shooting in US history when a student, Seung-Hui Choi, gunned down 56 people. Thirty-two people died in the massacre.

    February 12, 2007. In Salt Lake City’s Trolley Square Mall, 5 people were shot to death and 4 others were wounded by 18-year-old gunman Sulejman Talović. One of the victims was a 16-year-old boy.

    October 2, 2006. An Amish schoolhouse in Lancaster, PA was gunned down by 32-year-old Charles Carl Roberts, Roberts separated the boys from the girls, binding and shooting the girls. 5 young girls died, while 6 were injured. Roberts committed suicide afterward.

    March 25, 2006. Seven died and 2 were injured by 28-year-old Kyle Aaron Huff in a shooting spree through Capitol Hill in Seattle, WA. The massacre was the worst killing in Seattle since 1983.

    March 21, 2005. Teenager Jeffrey Weise killed his grandfather and his grandfather’s girlfriend before opening fire on Red Lake Senior High School, killing 9 people on campus and injuring 5. Weise killed himself.

    March 12, 2005. A Living Church of God meeting was gunned down by 44-year-old church member Terry Michael Ratzmann at a Sheraton hotel in Brookfield, WI. Ratzmann was thought to have had religious motivations, and killed himself after executing the pastor, the pastor’s 16-year-old son, and 7 others. Four were wounded.

    July 8, 2003. Doug Williams, a Lockheed Martin employee, shot up his plant in Meridian, MI in a racially-motivated rampage. He shot 14 people, most of them African American, and killed 7.

    September 15, 1999. Larry Gene Ashbrook opened fire on a Christian rock concert and teen prayer rally at Wedgewood Baptist Church in Fort Worth, TX. He killed 7 people and wounded 7 others, almost all teenagers. Ashbrook committed suicide.

    July 29, 1999. Mark Orrin Barton, 44, murdered his wife and two children with a hammer before shooting up two Atlanta day trading firms. Barton, a day trader, was believed to be motivated by huge monetary losses. He killed 12 including his family and injured 13 before killing himself.

    April 20, 1999. In the deadliest high school shooting in US history, teenagers Eric Harris and Dylan Kiebold shot up Columbine High School in Littleton, CO. They killed 13 people and wounded 21 others. They killed themselves after the massacre.
     
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    I once read a quote from both Jefferson and Franklin stating that after a long day of writing the constitution that they "Both sat relaxing on Jeffersons front porch and smoked the flowers of the Hemp plants that Jefferson was growing on his estate." So does that mean that our constitution was written by a bunch of Stoners...or is it a misquote too! LOL:rocker:
     
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    Thanks for sharing those quotes. It's amazing how prophetic many of our founding fathers were back in our great country's formative years.

    Also one of my favorites is the sniper's response to what he feels when he shoots a terrorist (a slight recoil). That has a bit of a Belichick ring to it.
     
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    Amazing how more than half of them are fiction, and how the gullible just want to believe wihout checking their veracity...
     
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    Of the 200 or so deaths you listed, it's my opinion that most of those deaths are on the hands of the people who continue to create these gun free zones where people can't defend themselves. The irony is that they (you) use scare tactics based off of the tragedies they (you) help create in the first place.

    The same faulty thinking led to the death of thousands on 9/11. If planes falling on their (your) head didn't wake them (you) up, then nothing will.

    I also noticed that you listed some racially motivated attacks in there but only white on black killings. Want to take a guess on how many black on white murders you ignored? Funny how you didn't want to use those in your argument for less guns.
     
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    Idle pap, that distracts from the argument presented..

    Just another nattering know nothing nabob of negativity.. keep up the fiction.
     
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    never mind.....
     
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    Why does Thomas Jefferson hate the NFL except that guy from the Chiefs???

    My God is that prophetic!
     
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    Nice play on words (worded incorrectly, how ironic) on Spiro Agnew (nattering nabobs of negativism).

    You also forgot the mass murders of all the wars as guns also played a part on them. :rolleyes:
     
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    The wording was intentional.. sadly the reality that this is increasing makes many folks blind to the reality..
     
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    We just need to face there is no making a perfect world. You cannot build a world in which nobody snaps and goes on killing sprees.

    You can do all you want, you just cannot control the random nature of life and death without squishing the spontaneity and freedom of life itself
     

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