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Columbia MO cops serve warrant, shoot caged dogs, find a little bit of pot

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    This video is graphic and disturbing, especially if you are an animal lover. To sum, cops find a personal amount of pot and to get to it they killed the family pets, which were caged, with children present.

    All you government takeover of health-care protesters need to get your priorities in order and start protesting the real bullsh1t that happens in this country on a regular basis.

    Go America! Land of the free!

    YouTube - Columbia Mo SWAT Raid 2/11/2010. Cops Shoot Pets With Children Present

    Some comments on it from an article in Reason (definitely not my favorite site).

    Video of SWAT Raid on Missouri Family - Hit & Run : Reason Magazine
     
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    The Drug War in a nutshell. Make sure the drugs enter the country then terrorize the people who use them.

    But no, we don't live in a police state.

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    Big fan of Reason (magazine, never been to the site)

    They're very good for this kind of stuff -- the stuff that many "law and order" types seem to think doesn't happen.

    At first I thought it said Columbia, MD, and I was wondering if these were the same as*hole SWAT guys who have become notorious for their over-aggressive tactics, including an incident last year when they busted into the mayor's home, shot the family's 2 golden retrievers, forced his mother and grandmother to the floor and cuffed them, etc.

    So, yeah, I'll say it again -- while there are plenty of good cops, there are a whole lot of as*holes out there with guns and badges.

    And the "war on drugs" is a joke. It may get more complicated when you're talking about more addictive, and more potentially devastating, drugs, but anybody who believes pot should be illegal needs to have their head examined.
     
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    There are few things more outrageous than an abuse of authority. We as a society entrust policemen with our protection and give them the authority to act on our behalf. To me, that gives them a greater responsibility to act appropriately and any policemen who betray the public trust should be dealt with harshly.

    Of course, I don't know WTH any of this has to do with health care :confused:
     
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    Frothing anger at excessive exercise of power is dramatically misplaced.
     
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    Yeah... let's compare a town's police force with one-sixth of the economy... and then ask who is being dramatic and who has their anger misplaced. What a ridiculous argument.
     
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    #24 Jersey

    When I was a kid, maybe 14 or so, I was spending the night with a friend at her big sister's apartment on the far South Side of Chicago.

    The cops raided the place on "tip" and an emergency warrant. They tore the place up - and totally terrorized the 4 of us. (Me, my friend, her siser and her sister's boyfriend.) It probably didn't help that he had hair half-way down his butt and all three of us female type chicklets were the long-haired ironed-straight, bell-bottomed, flower wearing species.

    The bottom line, however, was we were held at gunpoint for what seemed to be hours while they shouted, swore, threatened and just generally tore the house apart.

    It all ended rather abruptly when someone said, "Oh, oh - we're supposed to be one floor down," and they all turned around and walked out the door.

    Took us days to clean up - all of the food and most of the furniture ended up being a total write-off.

    By day, the recalling was a great adventure....by night none of us ever felt comfortable closing our eyes again.

    There's got to be a better way to do these things. Really. In light of this video and in hindsight, I guess I was lucky there weren't any pets in the place at the time.
     
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    No kidding. :rolleyes:
     
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    Um, many of the complaints were over loss of freedoms and government oppression. This too represents government oppression. You guys need to be more consistent and make fewer excuses.
     
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    It's not a single town's police force. If you read the OP, 100-150 of these warrants are served every day. By the way, there is a government agency that costs billions of dollars to sustain devoted to exactly this sort of behavior.

    Yay consistency! :bricks:
     
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    Consistent to whose standard? Yours? Please, your entire goal posting here is to find perceived chinks in your "enemies" armor. We're hardly going to take the same stance here on abuse by law enforcement than we would on the Constitutional powers of the Federal government. Not only are you comparing apples and oranges but you're doing so willfully which would make me wonder whether you know the difference between a mountain and a molehill or an opinion and an ***hole.
     
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    Hardly. That's an effect, not a cause. Most posters here don't really have armor anyways, your guys' arguments are essentially empty and naked. But keep trying.
    This has everything to do with the constitutional powers of the federal government, only right wing authoritarians seem to love the authority angle and hate the helping people angle. But awesome job on the cognitive dissonance, dude. You'll be rivaling PF13 any day now in that department.
    I'm sure there's room for at least 2 more cliches in that sentence. Your homework is to write 3 sentences, each triter than the last, and each triter than than the one you wrote above.
     
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    If they're empty and naked, how and what do you respond to? Your presumption here falls flat on its face.

    Abuse of local law enforcement has exactly what to do with the Federal government? Since when are all right wingers also authoritarians? Apparently someone missed his class on politics. Maybe you slept through it? Cognitive dissonance... I do not think it means what you think it means. Your catachresis might come from ignorance or maliciousness, not sure which.

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    Ha ha - the sh1t on this board gets so ridiculous it's too much fun not to dive right in!


    The federal government set the tone on the drug wars in the 80s, don't you know, and funnel dollars to local police departments based on enforcing these laws. In addition, no state has the legal right to legalize these sorts of things considering how federal law trumps state law. The states righters should be all kinds of up in arms about this, but they're not.
    Never said they are, but many are, and most right-wing politicians are. I don't have a number for you.
    Ha ha, rationalizing it away doesn't make it true! Isn't it convenient that it's exactly how cognitive dissonance works? Awesome!
     
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    I'm not uncomfortable with my positions at all and have no need to rationalize my points to myself -- I am rationalizing with you. Though at times at seems I'm rationalizing with a wall. Which, if the wall typed, might be like you. Your repetition of "cognitive dissonance" sounds like some compulsion -- did you read it in a book or a blog and adopt it as your mantra "big words"?
     
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    not sure about that.... I'd rather be required to pay for health insurance -- essentially a slight increase in taxes -- than have cops bust into my home and shoot my dogs

    That's at the individual level.

    If you want to look at the aggregate, you need to look at all incidents like these -- and there are many, many of them.
     
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    Pro-tip: be careful not to confuse cause and effect! (Let's see if he figures this one out....)
     
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    Quid Pro Quo
     
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    Don't try to weasel out of it.
     
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    Out of... dealing with smarmy attacks? To paraphrase you:

    Ha ha ha let's see if he figures it out, he's proving my point, why don't you explain it then..

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