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Colin Powell, 68% of American People believe Iraq in a Civil War...

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  1. DarrylS

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    It could just be a semantical argument, however there seems to be more and more folks coming forth who believe that Iraq is in a Civil War... first Colin Powell...

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/29/powell.iraq/index.html?section=cnn_latest

    DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (CNN) -- Former Secretary of State Colin Powell said Wednesday that Iraq's violence meets the standard of civil war and that if he were heading the State Department now, he might recommend that the administration use that term.

    Many news organizations and analysts are calling the Sunni-Shiite sectarian warfare that exploded this year, killing thousands and causing widespread displacement, a civil war.

    Powell's comments -- made in the United Arab Emirates at the Leaders in Dubai Business Forum -- are significant because he backed the war and was the top U.S. diplomat when the United States invaded Iraq in 2003.

    Bush has avoided using the term "civil war" to describe the situation in Iraq.

    Tuesday, he called the latest violence in Iraq "part of a pattern" of attacks by al Qaeda in Iraq to divide Shiites and Sunnis and vowed, again, he won't support the removal of U.S. troops "before the mission is complete."

    The WSJ, reports on a new Harris Poll that indicates that a very high number of American People believe that Iraq is in the midst of a civil war.
    http://online.wsj.com/public/articl...DHGQHgOUnQ_20061229.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top

    A majority of Americans think Iraq is in the midst of a civil war, a new Harris Interactive poll finds, and few are confident that Robert Gates's nomination as Secretary of Defense will improve the situation there.

    Sixty-eight percent of U.S. adults said they believe there is a civil war in Iraq, the online poll from Nov. 13 to Nov. 20 found, compared with 14% who disagree and 18% who aren't sure.

    Mr. Bush nominated former director of the Central Intelligence Agency Mr. Gates as a successor to Donald Rumsfeld on Nov. 9.

    Of 2,429 U.S. adults polled, only 13% think Mr. Gates will make the situation in Iraq better. Forty-two percent think he will make no difference and another 40% say they aren't sure of the impact.

    About half of those polled would like the government to set a timetable for withdrawal of U.S. troops in Iraq, while 18% favor withdrawing all U.S. troops now and 19% favor sending more troops to stabilize the situation.
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    Is Bush the last man on Earth that doesn't understand?

    Who exactly does he think he is portecting by calling a Civil War a "Pattern of Violence"?

    Who is he fooling by calling a civil war "Sectarian Violence"?
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    I don't think it is a Civil War. The MSM has been saying Civil War for 2 years now. The term sells better. The Admin has categorized when they would deem it one, and that is when the government security forces fracture, and become involved for one side or the other. Remember that there are 18 provinces in Iraq, 3 are violent. The 3 make up the greater Sunni Triangle. This doesn't mean that whats going on over there isn't ugly. In some ways how the violence is charactorized is really semantics. It's kinda strange when you think about it. There are people of both ethnicities still living together in Baghdad. I think a Civil War is when people are litterally rounded up and murdered without any regard. In Iraq, most people still carry out their daily lives together, save for the death groups that are targeting people. I guess I can see where it might not be civil war to one person, and might be to others.

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