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    Coach Belichick trusts you, the defensive line coach, to motivate a lineman with enormous potential but big-time character issues.

    And if you make the malcontent play to his huge potential, then you can consider yourself head coaching material.

    You'll be on a short list for new coaches. You're going to open up a lot of eyes across the league, and people will start talking you up like they used to do with Scott Pioli.

    It helps that Vince will work in tandem with you to motivate this guy.

    A motivated Haynesworth is every bit as dominating as Richard Seymour.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...skins-moments/2011/07/28/gIQAzV6oeI_blog.html This shows you what kind of character issues this guy comes with. He makes Randy Moss coming from Oakland out to be a Boy Scout in comparison.
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    good luck with that.
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    Exactly. People are underestimating what a f-up this guy is.
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    Good post, I forgot the about good old DP. He is an old school hard-ass who has been there and done that.
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    Not everybody. He makes Dillon and Moss look like choir boys. That said, I am encourage after reading some of the great things he's said about the Patriots in the past.
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    The Redskins message board is lighting up with Haynesworth being a pariah and bad actor. The guy cannot drive a car, cannot control his anger, is a sexual predator and plays dirty football. This is a two-edged sword for Pepper Johnson. Pepper must be thinking to himself, "Why me?"
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    you cant turn a Pitbull into a Collie but the bottom line is he makes plays and the pats need a play maker upfront
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    Geez, sounds like Charles Haley to me!! Sign me up! LMAO
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    You know Pepper aspires to be a DC. What better notch to put on his resume, as being the guy who "tamed" Albert Haynesworth and helped to resurrect his career.
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    It's hard to make plays when you're doing this

    ‪Albert Haynesworth --- Lay Lady, Lay‬‏ - YouTube

    Great physical tools and talent + no heart = bad player

    N.B. Remember what he did to Andre Gurode? That was insane.
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    Holy sheet, that was awesome!

    Are you old enough to remember Ken Simms? We drafted first, ahead of the next guy, someone name Lawrence Taylor out of UNC.

    The only decent years Sims gave us was his contract year. Size, strength, arm length, proven record at Texas in college, the whole package that made him the unanimous best player in the draft that year...but he had no heart.

    It just goes to show when he feels like turning it on he can dominate like one or two other interior D-linemen in the league.

    And interior pressure is the best pressure. No place for a QB to go--unless you're Mike Vick--except backwards.
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    The main difference being he Patriots didn't pay him millions of dollars. If he's a unredeemable f--- up, you cut him and say goodbye to a 2013 5th rounder. This trade is all reward and no risk.
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    I'm usually against picking up bad characters, just like BB is. Our relative success with Moss and Dillon has been way overplayed, we've gone out of our way to pick up good character guys, team Captains and such.

    On the other hand, maintaining discipline and having coaches on the field gives us the opportunity to give talented players that change of scenery and make it work.

    Haynesworth is a jerk, he really hated the defense/coaching switch on the skins and handled it poorly.

    He was a jerk before, and had some off the field incidents.

    From what I read, they are bad incidents of driving or dealing with women, probably typical of an average Jet or Bengal, not a Patriot. He's a jerk, but not a felon, that I'm aware of.

    In the universe of huge, hulking defensive linemen, they aren't all sweethearts like Vince, I'll leave it at that. Also, there are less than a handful of DL with his physical talents.

    In 2001, we brought in a bunch of high character guys, but one of our outstanding sparks was Bryan Cox, a renowned jerk. His fiery attitude set a tone, and later he was in a real pissing match with the management when let go.

    Teams are made up of diverse individuals. Often, teams with all similar personality types, even outstanding character types, fizzle because they have no spark.

    The guy can take on two blockers and beat the hell out of linemen and QBs. Hopefully, the excellent leaders we have in Ty Warren and Wilfork will give him the support he needs and he will crush offenses for us for a couple years.

    Don't see a problem with playing sub package tackle and some DE. He was asked to play nose tackle, and lots of players don't like that, memorably Ted Washington (I'll play it, but you got to pay me).
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    Remember the time when Pepper Johnson and Junior Seau almost came to blows in the parking lot? That was because Junior was disregarding the system and freewheeling. Cant wait for Haynesworth to get a beat down from his coach before he starts behaving himself.
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    You guys are exaggerating some. This is big enough to be on BB himself, too, one way or the other.

    E.g., no DL coach who's struggled with Haynesworth has been blamed in the past.

    That said, this could be Pepper's make or break season to actually get the Patriots DC title, even ahead of Patricia.
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    So true.

    But what Haynesworth did to a prostrate Andre Gurode, jabbing his cleats into his face with the intent of injuring, is beyond even what you admit.

    This guy is worse than a jerk. He's more a criminal. And this is BB making a reach at little cost in order to plug the obvious whole Seymour's departure left us.

    Remember the Ravens play-off game?

    But Haynesworth appears to be overly sensitive to coaches. Maybe Pepper can be the guy that rejuvenates his career. He certainly was dominating at times in Tennessee.
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    Ummmmm, time has dulled your sense of exactly what cancers Dillon and Moss were in the years prior to when they got here. Both were on the same level as AH was last year.
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    Well, if the Redskins message board says all of that then BB should probably just call the whole thing off. :rolleyes:
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