Class vs. No Class (Pioli - Mangini)

[zoostation]

You think Belichick gave the green light to JMcD on all three? I find that hard to believe. I think Reiss is right, it's Belichick's typical "it is what it is" approach, he knows that a free agent is fair game.

So what kind of house do you live in?

...lol.. an over priced house.

It’s very likely Belichick knew that both Jab and Pax wanted more money than what the Patriots were willing to pay and other teams would have taken them anyway. This is probably the last chance for both of those players to get a nice contract.

People within both teams and the players would know. All you, me and mike reiss can do is speculate.

 

[Box_O_Rocks]

Vrabel brings a lot to the Chiefs - Kansas City Star

The Chiefs also signed linebacker Darrell Robertson, who went to training camp last year with Dallas and also spent time on New England’s practice squad. He also played in two games for Edmonton of the CFL. He played in college at Georgia Tech for Chan Gailey, now the Chiefs’ offensive coordinator.

He was re-signed to a futures contract back in January and recently waived just after the Vrabel/Cassel trade due to NE being 'overloaded' at LB.

 

[PromisedLand]

I couldn’t disagree more.

The Parcells situation was really between Bill Parcells and Robert Kraft. When Bill agreed to be the head coach under the previous owner (Orthwein) he had input to the draft and player personnel and basically more power. When Kraft bought the team he stripped Parcells of his power and gave Bobby Grier complete control (This is where the famous tuna quote...."if you're going to cook the meal...you should at least be able to shop for the groceries" came from). Kraft later learned from his mistake as he eventually gave Bill Belichick full control. I can understand why Bill Parcells was upset as his role was diminished with the new ownership.

This isn't exactly right. Kraft stripped Parcells of full authority over the draft after the 1995 season in which the Pats fell from 10-6 in 1994 to 6-10. The next draft was the 1996 draft when the Pats drafted Terry Glenn with their first round pick. Parcells wanted to draft a defensive player; Bobby Grier wanted Glenn. Kraft sided with Grier, later explaining that they spent umpty million dollars a year on a player personnel department so they ought to listen to them. That's when the Parcells-Kraft rift started.

The following season, of course, was 1996 and Glenn had 90 catches, setting the NFL rookie record. Still, Parcells did not forgive Kraft and as we all know made a deal with Leon Hess to bolt to the Jets, even before the Patriots were eliminated from the playoffs. After they lost the Super Bowl to the Packers, Parcells announced his decision and during the ensuing press conference, used the famous grocery shopping analogy.

At least that's the way I remember it.

The code of conduct with Bill Parcells and Bill Belichick was as strong as ever when Parcells needed a kicker (for the Cowboys) and he wanted Adam V. Parcells called Belichick and asked him if he was trying to keep Adam. When BB told him ... yes…Parcells never went after Adam V. Indy jumped on him later that week, but Indy was not part of the Parcells / Bellichick coaching tree.

Pioli absolutely did the right thing by maintaining a healthy up front relationship. KC fans should be pissed? Are you insane?? KC fans have already benifited from this ethical and healthy business relationship and will continue as long as he keeps things on the ‘up and up’.

This ‘good faith’ approach is also the reason the Patriots gave up a 2nd round pick after they signed ‘free agent’ Wes Welker.

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[PatsWickedPissah]

This ‘good faith’ approach is also the reason the Patriots gave up a 2nd round pick after they signed ‘free agent’ Wes Welker.

I hope you meant to say, "This ‘good faith’ approach is also the reason the Patriots gave up a 7th round pick after they signed ‘free agent’ Wes Welker"

 

[Patjew]

No, I'm not insane. Just trying to look at this as objectively as possible. Pioli's responsibility is to improve the Chiefs, just as McDaniels' responisbility is to improve the Broncos. They don't need BB's approval to recruit a free agent.

Pioli's mission is to do this long-term. To piss off BB, an influential figure in the league and a potential trading partner, over a JAG like Evans would not be wise.

 

[Patjew]

"This is one of the main reasons I respect Scott," said Evans. "He said, 'I know Bill is trying to re-sign you, and I respect Bill so much, and he's done so much for me, so I'm not going to be in play.' I know Matt Cassel was pushing hard for it. We would have loved to be with Mike and Matty. But we found a great home, and I'm excited to see how it goes."

Or maybe Pioli just didn't want Evans and he was saying this to be polite.

 

[Deus Irae]

McDaniels already has that team imploding. Pissed off his franchise QB, probably can never repair that relationship, and has signed a bunch turds in free agency. The aforementioned Lamont Jordan being one of them.

Yeah....... ummmm...... I'm not seeing this at all. Other than Cutler crying because of trade rumors, I don't see any problems with what's been done out in Denver. In fact, I've loved their offseason to date.

 

[zoostation]

Yeah....... ummmm...... I'm not seeing this at all. Other than Cutler crying because of trade rumors, I don't see any problems with what's been done out in Denver. In fact, I've loved their offseason to date.

Yea… I agree. An immature quarterbacks feelings are hurt and all of a sudden Josh McDaniels is disaster????

 

[zoostation]

Pioli's mission is to do this long-term. To piss off BB, an influential figure in the league and a potential trading partner, over a JAG like Evans would not be wise.

Exactly! ....... not sure the little snitch in cleveland is smart enough to figure this out.