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  1. RhodyPatriot

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    Big mistake by the ST coach not to reign Chung in and not allow him the option of calling his own number if he sees an opening. Crazy!!
     
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    Chung was just too anxious on that play, not sure if he would gotten the 1st if he caught the ball cleanly but at least he would of gave himself a chance.
     
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    I kinda thought he did, especially when they showed him on the sidelines afterward.
     
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    iirc, Simms (may have been Nantz) said the right side was wide open.
     
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    WOW. How do you give a young player that type of empowerment in a big game? This league is filled with guys who ask for the ball and fail miserably when they get their chance that it's not even funny.

    That was such a pivotal mistake in the game. Hopefully a lesson is learned here and the Pats reel that in.Only the HC should be making that call.
     
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    It was wide open. If there was ever a time to run a fake punt it was right then. The call would of been brilliant only problem is the clutz didn't execute the snap. Now the whole team has taken the fall for it. As far I'm concerned the blame is solely on Chung. Regardless of who called the play.
     
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    If he made it, we'll call him gutsy.
    Its the coaches fault. Same coaches went for it on 4th and 13 instead of running on 3rd and 13 to get an easier FG
     
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    Calls for it, and cant ******* catch the ball. ugh
     
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    Good call, poor execution. As Mesko said, it was 8 Patriots against 6 Jets. They should get 4 yards or whatever it was on that every time.
     
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    seriously, this league is filled with those gumbo types. chung is no exception. if you're gonna call for it, don't drop the ball!!!!!
     
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    On the replay it shows a Jet coming in on the right and his man did not have him sealed off. Maybe after him it was wide open.
    This is the kind of play that never would have happened back in the day. A young player never would have been left with that option at his disposal. It's just a stupid "trying to be a hero" play and it's coaching that's not paying attention to detail.
    Down 7 - 3 at the half is a very diffferent dynamic than being down 14 - 3 at the half. Killer is the Pats were getting the ball to start the 2nd half.
     
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    I call BS on this. There's no way a coach leaves this big of a decision to a ST player!
     
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    Apparently he did. I can't see why Mesko would just make it up.
     
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    Coaching staff should have never given him that much power on whether or not to call fake punts throughout the season. That was an absolutely horrible decision. That decision should be left up to BB and the special teams coaches alone.
     
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    I'm pretty confident this is a call that was talked about in detail, studied and practiced over the course of the season. I doubt that the ST coach walked up to Chung in Week 6 and said, "Hey, if you ever see an opening, audible to a fake punt," and that was the end of it until the middle of the 2nd quarter today.

    I'm sure they looked at the film and decided that if you see this opening, take it. It didn't work out.
     
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    I think it was Sammy Morris and it looks to me like Chung saw that and took his eye off the ball and panicked. Like a lot of plays we blame one person when its more than one guy blowing his assignment.
     
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    It's really not bad on the coaches. The up man, fullback, whatever you wanna call it (Chung) on kickoffs has protection and audible duties. If he recognizes a certain punt defense matchup such as 4 on 3 and deeply set backers (which he had), it's commonly a greenlight. Given the game situation, time, down, distance, ect...Westhoff shoulda seen it and had a different look called. It was actually a nice recognition by Chung, and the block was there between the guard and tackle to walk four yards. This is especially true given how hard the backers were driving towards the wall formation. Sucks they didn't execute, but the play was there and it coulda gone a lot further than four yards. Sometimes the ball just doesn't bounce your way.
     
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    I don't pin this on Chung. First, his coaches told him he had an option. If they were not comfortable with it, they could have a) told him before the play not to do it or b) called a timeout after they saw him make his audible before the ball was snapped-(assuming they even heard him or saw him make the signal).

    Personally, I figured the defense would hold them to 3- acceptble for the upside for a huge play on the fake. Down by 10 going into half I thought. I was not right as it turns out.
     
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    I appreciate the technical breakdown and I do understand WHY they would go for it. The thing I don't agree with is going for it where we went for it. As I said before, I don't think we should go for it on 4th down or attempt a fake punt until crossing the 50 yard line. Any failure to convert means instant points for the opposing offense.
     
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    You don't pin this on Chung? He dropped the snap...
     
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