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China Indicates It's Interested in Developing Nuclear Capability!!

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  1. Mrs.PatsFanInVa

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    Ok...when does stupid become stupid enough?

    Ubeki-beki-bekistan was bad enough....but now Herman Cain has warned us that we have to keep our eye on China because they've indicated they're "trying to develop nuclear capability."

    Herman Cain: China Indicated It's 'Trying To Develop Nuclear Capability'

    News Flash, Herman!! China's had nuclear capabilities since 1964.

    The United States and the Chinese Nuclear Program, 1960-1964

    In fact, they've got an estimated 450 nuclear weapons on hand.

    Since its inception, China's nuclear weapon program has relied on a mixture of foreign assistance, indigenous know-how and espionage to steadily develop and modernize its nuclear arsenal from its first implosion device to the development of tactical nuclear weapons in the 1980s. As a result of this program, China is assessed to have at least six different types of nuclear weapons: a 15-40 Kt fission bomb; a 20 kt missile warhead; a 3 Mt thermonuclear missile warhead; a 3 Mt thermonuclear gravity bomb; a 4-5 Mt missile warhead; and a 200-300 Kt missile warhead. China may also posses some tactical nuclear weapons. The Natural Resources Defense Council estimates that China's current nuclear stockpile includes about 450 nuclear weapons.

    China's Nuclear Weapon Development, Modernization and Testing

    They're not "trying," Herman....they've succeeded. It would be reassuring to know that our president was aware of the fact.
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    Herman Cain: not ready for primetime.
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    This guy has some REALLY bad advisors, or he lives in a bubble...

    or both...
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    Can he see China from his house? Maybe he spotted something.


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    Its odd that he'd know that China's been working hard on developing aircraft carriers of late; but not know that they have the bomb.
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    Pretty sure he misspoke and intended to comment on "continued development" but of course blunders like these get magnified.
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    He clarified his statement later today on FOX buisness:

    "I don't have to know the nuclear capabilites of Chiggity-ching-chon-Ubekki-bekki China town"

    He then smashed a gong.
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    He may have, but you have to admit that it happens A LOT. This moron would get us all killed if there was a chance in hell he could be nominated, much less elected. Morons like this guy, Palin and many other GOP contenders must be an embarrassment to the rational members of the party. As an American and human being, I get embarrassed by them. You know the feeling when you're watching Larry David or Michael Scott? That kind of embarrassed.:cool:
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    Public figures have missteps all the time now... in this era we're simply more aware of it. Just need to get used to it. They're on camera so much it's impossible not to make mistakes. This game of "gotchya" isn't helpful. An interview is much different than crafting a policy surrounded by advisors.
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    I'm with you on public figures having missteps but Cain doesn't help himself when he makes fun of a Country and then proudly states that he has no idea who the President of that Country is.
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    The people he has advising him now don't seem to be doing a good job.
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    I don't think Cain cares about what his advisers say. Remember McCain/Palin calling themselves mavericks back in 2008? Cain is a legit maverick. He says whatever he wants.

    IMO: Cain will go down fighting but will drop out of the race in February.
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    Right. That's true.

    But the camera's also on Romney, Newt, Paul and everyone else. You don't think Obama had cameras on him? Why don't we have video of their in-you-face willful ignorance? It's not like Cain doesn't have time to prepare. He chooses not to. That's insulting to me.

    It's a matter of gross arrogance and disrespect for the position he's running for. Same went for Palin and that's one of the things that turns Independent voters to Obama even though Obama had very little experience compared to McCain. That will happen again if Cain is the nominee. Obama will beat Cain the way he beat McCain- like a dirty rug. Only this time Obama will get the votes of the old-guard Republicans, too.

    I'll bet Christie is wishing he could jump in. The way things are going, I doubt it would be too late for him. He could be at 40% by Christmas...no kidding.
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    Nuclear capability =/ just nuclear weapons.

    China is looking to develop nuclear capabilities for their NAVY.

    http://www.navy.mil/navydata/cno/n87/usw/issue_32/china.html




    China to build 93,000-ton atomic-powered aircraft carrier: source : International : Home


    The 93,000 ton carrier is approaching the size of our Nimitz calss carriers no other navy in the world has this sort of capability, this is a big deal in Asia if not among the libs at NPR.

    The Chosun Ilbo (English Edition): Daily News from Korea - What China's 1st Aircraft Carrier Means for the Region



    Cain seems to be more informed that NPR and the libs on this board who don't know the difference between weapons and capabilities.
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    So a nuclear powered ship or sub = a nuclear weapon?

    Cain is an idiot when it comes to any topic outside of the USA.

    Do you know that one of the USA's strongest allies sells uranium to China?
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    Sadly for you and any other GOP apologists, that isn't what he said.

    He said "develop nuclear capability." That's different from "increase their nuclar capability" or "further develop their nuclear capability."

    He may well have meant to say something along those lines. As khayos pointed out, he probably just mis-spoke; it's hard to believe he doesn't know that China does in fact have nuclear capability.

    But no surprise, you want to twist what he said into something he didn't say, just like Palin and her gaffe re. Paul Revere. spin, spin away!

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    (and while we're on the topic of Cain, let me know whether you want to take me up on the wager I offered you here more than a month ago)
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    China, China, China.....

    Can we stop with all the China threads?!!:D
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    No Cain used the word "Nuclear CAPABILITY" he didn't use the word weapon, you and the media are putting words in his mouth.

    Now you appear not to know the difference between capability and weapon so I will explain it and try to clear up your lack of knowledge.


    Take the difference between a nuclear submarine and the type of diesels and subs China currently posses. A Diesel boat is only capable of coastal operations, if your submarine fleet has Nuclear CAPABILITY they can operate anywhere in the world without having to go to a port, they can shadow and threaten nuclear carrier groups like the ones the USA deploys, this is a CAPABILITY they do not have currently.


    So they addition of a nuclear capability is a big deal especially to those in ASIA like Japan, Taiwan and S Korea as well as the USA.

    It is funny when people calling someone a moron don't understand the valid point the person they are denigrating is making. :bricks:
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    How did Cain make a valid point" He said, "They’ve indicated that they’re trying to develop nuclear capability." He say "enhance." He didn't say "increase." He said "develop," and in fact he was specifically referring to weapons: "So yes they’re a military threat. They’ve indicated that they’re trying to develop nuclear capability and they want to develop more aircraft carriers like we have."

    Look, my feeling is that Republicans like stupid figureheads like Reagan, Bush, and maybe Cain, who can easily be manipulated by the various power brokers, such as the Koch brothers, who are huge Cain backers. Cain is a stupid man. That will not hurt him in a general election. He'll be packaged and carefully protected so that he doesn't make too many mistakes. Unless the candidate is Romney, I have no doubt the Republicans will allow no more than one presidential debate to take place ... because they're stupid men and women. The only intelligent tea party person in the race in Gingrich, but since he can't be controlled by the power brokers they're not backing him. The Republican Party, even more than the Democratic Party, is owned by very powerful interests.
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