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'Cheney pushes Bush to act on Iran'

Discussion in 'Political Discussion' started by PressCoverage, Jul 16, 2007.

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Will/Should the U.S. attack Iran in the next 20 months?

  1. Will, and should

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  2. Will, and should not

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  3. Won't, and should

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  4. Won't, and should not

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  1. PressCoverage

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    this thread is two parts... one, a statement that Cheney officially is Palpatine; and two, the poll... discuss either, or both...

    ‘Bush is not going to leave office with Iran still in limbo.’

    In a story entitled “Cheney pushes Bush to act on Iran,” The Guardian writes that Cheney may be winning the debate inside the White House over how to confront Iran:

    The balance in the internal White House debate over Iran has shifted back in favour of military action before President George Bush leaves office in 18 months, the Guardian has learned.

    The shift follows an internal review involving the White House, the Pentagon and the state department over the last month. Although the Bush administration is in deep trouble over Iraq, it remains focused on Iran. A well-placed source in Washington said: “Bush is not going to leave office with Iran still in limbo.”​
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    It would be a good distraction from the swirling sh!t storm boy george finds himself in. But if he were to pull the trigger on this his funding would be cut off within 48 hours. If he doesn't relize this he would be made to as soon as any rumors leaked out. Right now he probably has only a dozen or so senators that are true believers,and he'd lose them fast. This isn't a Great White Fleet scenario. As soon as the funds were cut there would be I think, a massive diplomatic push to placate the Iranians
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    I do not see how he can in this political climate, but then again his inner circle of like minded people may read this differently and do whatever they want to do without proceeding through congress. I am in favor of the old time CIA and Moosad, accidents can and do happen.
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    Ain't happening. We're not attacking Iran. People who talk about this are disillusioned from reality.
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    R-dubz, I hope you are correct on this one...I'm one of those "disillusioned" people who understands that this administration constantly makes the wrong decisions. The track record speaks for itself.
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    It makes absolutely no sense, would be an inevitable disaster, and is an obvious bad move.

    But, there's a good chance it will happen simply because Cheney is pure evil.

    And... we don't have 3 carrier strike groups off the coast of Iran for nothing.
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    What are you going to attack it with? Furthermore, if you use air, what are you going to accomplish, other than $130-150 a barrel oil? If they indeed have nukes, or are bulding them, they are deep underground.

    Ain't happening.
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    Yeah, just like we never had them there before, or off the coast of China in the 90's. Maybe the US can organize another kidnapping of some British sailors while they're there. ;)
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    Unfortunately the people running the country are disillusioned from reality.
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    Just leave them alone, sit back and watch the fireworks, Liberals have never liked Israel, well, now Iran will take care of that problem.

    I wonder what Striesand, Jon Stewart, Paul Newman, Spielberg, Chevy Chase and Al Franken will say when they see their homeland turned into another Hiroshima, I wonder if Barbara Walters or the rest of these Bush Haters have any relatives over there.

    Maybe Jimmy Carter & Jessie Jackoff can go to Iran to "Negotiate" :singing:
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    Attacking Iran helps out some specific people:
    - Helps Israel feel better
    - Helps big oil companies create huge profits
    - Helps Cheney when Halliburton goes in
    - Helps America by protecting the dollar as standard oil trading currency.

    Even though it will be a disaster, there are enough powerful people who can make this happen.
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    HMMMM,Who in this country could profit fom higher oil prices? Lets see Bush,Bush's friends ,Chaney,Chaney's friends, oil co's. would love it excuses
    galore for $6-7 dollar a gallon gas. Just watch the cost of a barrel of oil jump when Bush just Rattles his Saber in the direction of Iran. :eek: Dam Maverick beat me to it. And his post looks better too.
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    You have GOT to be kidding me. Most of the people here say that we should not.... jeez people - wake up. Iran is just as dirty as those rat bas**rds who blew up all those people on 9/11.

    These people are NOT religious. They are full of hate and want us ALL DEAD. Iran WILL attack ... we WILL attack - a war WILL happen ... and it should.
    Blow them all up - send em' all to the god they claim they support, Allah. Anyone who straps a bomb to themself and blows up fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, children and elders deserves nothing better then a cold hard napalm death. Anyone who supports the slaughter of US troops deserves nothing better then a cold hard death. Anyone who blows up Isreali's because they are jewish deserves nothing but a cold hard death.


    So go ahead, call me a racist and a bigot and whatever you want now - most of you are blind anyway.
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    Most of the population of Iran hate their leadership. Especialy that nut amadi@#$%#@. With a little help from the CIA the government could come crashing down. It's been like thst for the last 10-12 years. The youger population like the west and hate being under religious law.
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    That - I can agree with. Unfortunatly that's not how america runs anymore. Let's go pull out of Iraq and pull out of the middle east and pull out of the world and pretend like nothing is happening! Let's all go eat our fast food and hide in our cubicals and pretend like life is easy and get all our socialist handouts and lets let government decide whats right and wrong for WE THE PEOPLE.
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    We I agree that we have to do something about Iran. Up until AQ it's been the real enemy trying to influance the region threw terror. But were stretched a little thin, we let our military numbers drop from 1.5 million in the early Ninties to 5000,000 now.so were goin to have to slick about what we do,or increase the size of the military.But again with a little push Iran could come crashing down. If we bomb them it'll pizz the general population off and they'll mostt likely support abadia#$@#%. Which is what he wants.
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    Im not sure our military can drop from 1.5 million to 5000,000 ;)
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    After the first gulf war the military was down sized we won to easily and it cost to much to keep a sanding army well standing.So they Clinton let it drop threw attrition. The generals,and sec.of defence thought air power was the way to go.
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    Ugh. :p

    You said it dropped from 1.5 million to 5000,000 ... 5000,000 = 5 million.
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    Any increase in prices could have the opposite affect. When prices reach a point of no return, which $150 a barrel will clearly do, then people will move to both consume less, and find an alternative sources of energy. Also, increased prices for oil does not = more profits for Exxon & co. It means more profits for producers like OPEC. Oil is used for more than just gas. Petrolium makes lots, and lots of products, and therefore it's doubling from current costs would mean a disaster for the currently buzzing global economy. Why cause a global recession to put money in one niche's pockets? The biggest culprit in gas prices is consumption and refining ability.

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