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  1. JDSal45

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    Charlie says he won't sit out a year in his first exclusive interview since his firing. A few interesting comments:
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    Charlie Weis goes on the record

    J D Sal
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    Charlie would be a good choice OC for a team wanting ti develop a young qb.

    I hope he doesn't end up with the Jets.:( I don't want to dislike him.
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    if he becomes a JET he is selling his Soul to the DEVIL and disrespecting the PATS Organization. BB. The Kraft's and TFB all at the same time.



    Huge SLAP in the FACE... if this happens.
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    I want him back.
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    I think Charlie coming back for a few years would be awesome! I hope Kraft opens up the checkbook to get him back.
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    That's insane ... if we don't have a place for him and the
    Jet's wanted him then he should be a Walmart greeter instead?
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    Huh? He got fired. It happens to most coaches at some time. He walked away from ND with 18 mil. I wish someone would beat me down like that.
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    He's talking about people personally attacking his wife and kid with abuse. Apparently, his kid was abused in school, and his wife accosted in public.

    I don't blame the guy for taking his $18 million AND being unforgiving.
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    Charlie could consider Miami.
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    Yes .... :yeahthat:
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    wtf?????????
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    I can see the Pats bringing him on as a consultant, similar (although for a different reason) than what the Colts did with Tom Moore this season.

    That would allow him to participate in a playoff run without hindering his options. He may be interested in the KC job next season but for now, why not enjoy a playoff run with Brady and Belichick. Its a good fit.
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    I would love to see Weis AND Crennel bacl with the Patriots in any capacity!

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the good old days!
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    The Dolphins? Not as long as Parcells is there. Tuna may have burried the hatchet with BB, but not with Charlie. And likely never will. Pretty sure its mutual on Charlie's end too.

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    How soon would Weis be a major contributor? Defenses have changed since he was here. Offensive skill position players have turned over except for Brady/Faulk (did Weis ever coach a healthy Watson on the field?).

    I'd love him back in any capacity for next year, and he probably could be a useful limited-impact mentor this year. But I think that's about it.
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    Your second sentence is the key. When Weis was with the Patriots,

    he was not well paid as a coordinator. If Weis had not been hired by Notre

    Dame, his agent was planning on getting Weis a job with another NFL team.
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    Yeah, Parcells and Weis hate each other. Weis hates him for publically stripping him of his play calling duties in 1999 and Parcells hates Weis for siding with Belichick in the whole Belichick to New England matter and even testified against the Jets and Parcells in an arbitration hearing.

    The only position I can see Parcells hiring Weis for is to clean the toilets in LandShark Stadium.
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    Oh for heaven's sake! Charlie Weis should do what's good for Charlie Weis and his family and for whatever team offers him the best opportunity.
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    That is the issue. The NFL is very different now than it was in 2004. There has been a lot of trends with defenses and the rules that have made things very different. This has become a pass happy league with only one team that runs more than they pass (the Jets). Weis may be able to adapt just fine, but there is no guarantees.

    Brady loves the shotgun because it gives him the ability to read the defenses and the rushes. It is hard to argue against the shotgun's success even if you can argue that they over-rely on it this year. Weis hates the shotgun. Brady gave in to Weis because he was still a younger player. Will the former League MVP, future HOF Brady who has had a major impact on the offensive gameplans for years be willing to give up the shotgun? Will Weis realize the value of the shotgun and run it more considering it is becoming the trend in the league?
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    I said it a few months ago and I will say it again....

    The Buffalo Bills will announce Charlie Weis as their New HC once the season is over for them.

    Then we will see the EX-OC vs his former Boss in the 2 head to head games making headlines in 2010

    Mark it down.....
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    can you say bills new head coach

    no way BB will make him the play caller again he is not known to do that to he's staff only way he is the pats OC next year if Bill O'Brien, get's a new job as a HC and that's not going to happen


    all the probleme's on O are not all O'Brien's fault the pats run a offense, where the receivers read the DB's and run there routs according to what the defense is giveing them. and brady calls all of the pass protection's at the line


    this year brady is not takeing what the defense is giveing him even when he throws to the TE's and the #3 or #4 WR everthing is a 50 yerd bomb
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    How come Belichick didn't elevate O'Brien to OC?

    Also, Belichick came in in 1996 and took Groh's job.
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    There is absolutely no way that I see Weis being anything but a HC in the NFL,He is not coming back to be a coordinator,no way.

    If the Bills don't sign him then I can see the Cowboys taking him in as I can't see Phillips lasting longer than this season,especially if the Cowboys don't make it to the Super Bowl,Charlie would take Romo to the next level which Romo is certainly capable of attaining with the proper coach and Weis could be that man.....But I still say Buffalo
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    1.) Belichick didn't name McDaniels the offensive coordinator until 2006 even though McDaniels called the plays as the QB coach in 2005. The Pats didn't have an OC in 2005. O'Brien is following the same path.

    2.) Belichick did not take Groh's job in 1996. When Belichick came in in 1996, Groh remained defensive coordinator while Belichick bacame secondary coach/assistant head coach. They can't do that to Weis since Scarnecchia is the assistant head coach.
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    I know all that. The answer is, the reason he didn't name them OC is because they were calling plays as a test, a probation of sorts. And O'Brien has looked worse than McDaniels.

    Belichick was the huge force and difference in 1996. He had a huge hand as a Asst HC on the defensive side of the ball.

    In short, I don't think BB would have any compunction whatsoever about bringing Weis in as OC if he thought it was the best thing to do.
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    I think people are reading too much into not naming an OC. O'Brien isn't nearly as good as McDaniels was, but I think Belichick doesn't want the pressure of a spotlight on his offensive signal caller until they get more acclimated. Also, since he isn't a coordinator, Belichick can still keep the press away from him because the league requires coordinators to be available to the media.

    I seriously doubt Belichick didn't name O'Brien the coordinator in holding out hopes for Weis to return. Belichick will do what is best for this team to win, but he has never thrown one of his coaches under the bus while he was here. He has let coaches pursue other opportunities, but I don't think anyone has ever been fired, demoted, or stripped of responsibilities that anyone knows of (other than the Mangini rumor, but by most accounts he was never in danger of losing his job or responsibilities long term).

    I wouldn't be shocked if Weis returned in some capacity, but I am not betting on it. Even with rumors of animosity between Weis and Pioli, I say he has a better chance to end up in KC. Weis wants to be a head coach again and he is hurting himself by coming back to the Pats because even if the Pats went 19-0 people would say it is because he is with Belichick and Brady and wonder if he could run his own team.
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    Interesting take, Rob but I look at it differently. Some of these owners have a you-know-what for all things Pats. If Weis comes in and they win a SB (wheather he made the difference or not) that is better for Weis candidacy for a NFL HC gig as opposed to going to KC and going 7-9.

    On another point, some NFL coaches aren't good college coaches. Weis is clearly not the recruiting machine, ra-ra Pete Carroll-type who HS kids can't wait to play for.
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    Belichick did the same thing in 2005 with McDaniels supposedly calling plays but not holding the title. I don't see that as a slight, just a Belichick peculiarity in internal organization after the departure of an OC. I cannot see Weis "consulting" on offense as the suggestion would be the de facto OC cannot do his job and Belichick has no confidence in his ablity to do so. If that were the case, Belichick would be better served canning O'Brien and appointing Weis. As you pointed out, Belichick has no history of terminating his staff, and he willingly accepts blame for any coaching miscue.

    I still don't see Weis coming back to the Pats (what does the return earn him in terms of career?), and I do not see him as a head coach next year. He failed at the college level, so why would he be given the same position at the professional level? Usually success at the college level may get a coach a shot, but a less than successful tour will likely not get you the NFL job. I believe Weis tried to get a head coaching position prior to ND and got no interest (I also heard the weight reduction surgery was something of a response to that image-wise - I couldn't find a link on that).

    In any event, Lombardi did an article on Weis three days ago. I didn't see it posted, but it discusses many of these points.
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