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  1. Satchboogie3

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    I've compiled stats for the 7 games (including playoffs) the Chargers played against winning teams (9+ wins).

    vs Pats - Lost 14-38
    vs GB - Lost 24-31
    vs INDY - Won 23-21
    vs Jax - Lost 17-24
    vs TEN - Won 23-17OT
    vs TEN - Won 17-6
    vs INDY - won 28-24

    They are 4-3 facing winning teams.
    They are +1 in TO in those 7 games.

    Point Differential: -15
    PT Diff in wins: +6
    PT Diff in Loss: -12.7
    Here are the breakdowns for the offense and defense:

    Offense:
    20.9 PPG
    AVG 319 Tot yds/G
    AVG 232 pass yds/g
    AVG 87 rush yds/g (3.4 yds/car)
    LT - AVG 65.6 yds/g, 459 yds, 131 car, 3.5 yds/car, 4TD
    TO - 14

    Defense:
    23 PPG
    Avg 349 tot yds/G
    AVG 252 pass yds/g
    AVG 96.7 rush yds/g (4.1 yds/car)
    TO - 15

    They haven't been able to run the ball effectively; LT was average at best, and they turned the ball over 14 times (11 INT).

    Also interesting, In BOTH games against INDY, INDY OUT GAINED them on total yards. In the first game, where the Chargers won by 23-21, The Colts out gained them by 209 yds. The average QB rating against during these 7 games is 83.8, while Rivers has averaged 82.8.

    Here are the complete breakdown per game:
    vs Pats:
    Offense:
    201 Tot yds
    149 Pass yds
    52 Rush yds (19 car)
    3 TO (2 INt)
    LT - 18 car, 43 yds, 0 TD, 2.39yds/car

    Defense:
    407 Tot yds
    263 Pass yds
    144 Rush yds (25 car)
    38 pts
    2 TO (1 INT)
    LM - 15 Car, 77 yds, 0 TD, 5.13 yds/car
    SM - 10 Car, 51 yds, 1 TD, 5.1 yds/car

    vs GB:
    Offense:
    364 Tot yds
    291 pass yds
    73 rush yds (26 car)
    1 TO (1 INT)
    LT - 22 car, 62 yds, 0 TD, 2.82yds/car

    Defense:
    405 TOt yds
    363 pass yds
    42 rush yds (9 car)
    0 TO
    Jac - 6 car, 22 yds, 1 TD, 3.7 yds/car
    Gra - 3 car, 10 yds, 0 TD, 3.3 yds/car

    vs INDY:
    offense:
    177 Tot yds
    86 Pass yds
    91 rush yds (23 car)
    3 TO(2 INT)
    LT - 21 car, 76 yds, 1 TD, 3.62yds/car

    Defense:
    386 Tot yds
    311 pass yds
    75 rush yds (26 car)
    6 TO (6 INT)
    Addai - 22 car, 56 yds, O TD, 2.55 yds/car

    vs JAX:
    Offense:
    388 Tot yds
    309 Pass yds
    79 rush yds (28 car)
    2 To (2 INT)
    LT - 16 car, 62 yds, 1 TD, 3.88 yds/car

    Defense:
    311 Tot yds
    189 pass yds
    122 rush yds (32 car)
    0 TO
    Taylor - 20 car, 85 yds, 0 TD, 4.25 yds/car
    JD - 12 car, 33 yds, 1 TD, 2.75 yds/car

    vs TEN:
    Offense:
    341 Tot yds
    193 pass yds
    148 rush yds (27 car)
    3 TO (2 INT)
    LT - 26 car, 146 yds, 1 TD, 5.62 yds/car

    Defense:
    240 Tot yds
    109 pass yds
    131 rush yds (35 car)
    2 TO (2 INT)
    White - 30 car, 113 yds, 1 TD, 3.77 yds/car

    vs TEN:
    Offense:
    350 Tot yds
    282 pass yds
    68 rush yds (30 car)
    1 TO (1 INT)
    LT - 21 car, 42 yds, 1 TD, 2 yds/car

    Defense:
    248 Tot yds
    129 pass yds
    119 rush yds (22 car)
    2 TO (1 INT)
    White - 19 car, 69 yds, 0 TD, 3.63 yds/car

    vs INDY:
    Offense:
    411 Tot yds
    312 pass yds
    99 rush yds (24 car)
    1 TO (1 INT)
    LT - 7 car, 28 yds, 0 TD, 4 yds/car
    Turner - 17 car, 71 yds, 4.18 yds/car

    Defense:
    446 Tot yds
    402 pass yds
    44 rush yds (17 car)
    3 TO (2 INT)
    Addai - 13 car, 43 yds, 0 TD, 3.31 yds/car



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    The Patriots have played 8 games (including playoffs) against teams with a winning record.

    vs SD: Won 38-14
    vs CL: Won 34-13
    vs DAL:Won 48-27
    vs WAS:Won 52-7
    vs IND:Won 24-20
    vs PIT:Won 34-13
    vs NYG:Won 38-35
    vs JAC:Won 31-20

    We are (obviously) 8-0 in these 8 games.
    We are +11 in TO (17 to 6).
    Point Differential: +150

    Here is the breakdown for offense and defense:

    Offense:
    37.4 PPG
    AVG 413.6 Tot yds/g
    AVG 310.9 pass yds/g
    AVG 104.3 rush yds/g (5.0 yds/car)
    6 TO

    Defense:
    18.6 PPG
    AVG 300.9 TOT yds/g
    AVG 207.3 pass yds/g
    AVG 93.6 rush yds/g (4.7 yds/car)
    17 TO

    The average QB rating against is 85.5, while Brady has had a QB rating of 120.7

    Here is the breakdown per game:

    SD:
    Offense:
    407 Tot yds
    263 pass yds
    144 rush yds (25 car)
    2 TO (1 INT)

    Defense:
    201 Tot yds
    149 Pass yds
    52 rush yds (19 car)
    3 TO (2 INT)

    CL:
    Offense:
    412 Tot yds
    265 pass yds
    147 rush yds (27 car)
    0 TO

    Defense:
    353 Tot yds
    261 pass yds
    92 rush yds (16 car)
    4 TO (3 INT)

    DAL:
    Offense:
    448 Tot yds
    373 pass yds
    75 rush yds (22 car)
    1 TO

    Defense:
    285 Tot yds
    186 pass yds
    99 rush yds (15 car)
    1 TO (INT)

    WAS:
    Offense:
    486 Tot yds
    334 Pass yds
    152 rush yds (19 car)
    1 TO

    Defense:
    224 Tot yds
    177 Pass yds
    47 rush yds (14 car)
    4 TO (1 INT)

    IND:
    Offense:
    342 Tot yds
    237 pass yds
    105 rush yds (22 car)
    2 TO (2 INT)

    Defense:
    329 Tot yds
    210 pass yds
    119 rush yds (30 car)
    2 TO (1 INT)

    PIT:
    Offense:
    421 Tot yds
    399 pass yds
    22 rush yds (9 car)
    0 TO

    Defense:
    349 Tot yds
    168 pass yds
    181 rush yds (27 car)
    1 TO

    NYG:
    Offense:
    390 Tot yds
    346 pass yds
    44 rush yds (20 car)
    0 TO

    Defense:
    316 Tot yds
    237 pass yds
    79 rush yds (18 car)
    1 To (INT)

    Jax:
    Offense:
    403 Tot yds
    258 pass yds
    145 rush yds (23 car)
    0 T0

    Defense:
    350 To yds
    270 pass yds
    80 rush yds (19 car)
    2 TO (1 INT)


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    So in conclusion, in our 8 games against teams with winning records, we have won all 8 games, while SD only won 4 out of 7 games against teams with winning records. We put up better stats in EVERY category (except yds/car) , offense and defense, than SD.

    Here is how SD and NE compare:

    Offense:
    PTS/G - NE, 16.5 more pts/g
    Tot yds/g - NE, 94.6 more yds/g
    Pass yds/g- NE, 78.9 more yds/g
    Rush yds/g- NE, 17.3 more yds/g
    Rush yds/att- NE, 1.6 more yds/car (5.0 vs 3.4)
    TO - NE, 8 less TO (14 to 6)

    Defense:
    PTS/G - NE, 4.4 less PTS/G
    Tot yds/g - NE, 48.1 less yds/g
    Pass yds/g - NE, 44.7 less yds/g
    Rush yds/g - NE, 3.1 less yds/g
    rush yds/att - SD, 0.6 less yds/car (4.1 vs 4.7)
    TO - NE, 2 more TO (17 to 15)


    I think we can conclude that the Patriots have been FAR better against good teams than has SD. The numbers speak for themselves.
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    Great stuff. A lot of us have noticed that this long winning streak of SD's doesn't include many good teams but these numbers really show the difference when playing good teams.
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    if your conclusion is pats >>>> chargers, I'm waaayyyy ahead of you.

    but you forgot to factor in something in your analysis --- all those games the chargers lost were lost by a completely different team that bears no resemblance to the totally awesome team that's playing now.
    losses = crappy chargers
    wins = current really cool chargers

    unless they lose again this weekend, in which case that's the crap chargers who snuck back in for one more week.
    so, look out next year!!!
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    LOL, are they playing better because they've been playing bad teams or are they playing better and it's just a coincidence they're playing bad teams. We'll find out Sunday but I'm dubious about this "new" Charger team.
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    Actually, 5 of the 7 games against winning teams came in the second half of the season. It was after their loss to JAX that they began their win streak. 2 Games in weeks 2 and 3, then they somehow beat INDY in week 10, Lost to JAX in week 11, and the next 3 games vs winning teams were CLOSE games that they DIDN'T dominate like the pats do.

    The strength of schedule that SD faced during their 8 game winning streak is 0.47% That isn't too good. I don't buy that whole argument. I think it is more telling to look at the games they played against good teams.

    I will later post a rundown of SD and NE's stats against winning teams compared to the average stats of the teams they faced. That will give us an idea of how effect SD and NE were against those teams.
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    OK, I broke down some more stats.

    SD AVG stats in 7 games vs winning teams : Season AVG stats of those 7 teams

    SD Offense compared to opponents defense :

    SD Opponents
    20.9 PPG : 17.8 PPG allowed = +3.1 PPG
    319 Tot yds/g : 329 Tot yds/g allowed = -10 tot yds/g
    232 pass yds/g : 194 pass yds/g allowed = + 38 pass yds/g
    87 rush yds/g : 100 rush yds/g allowed = - 13 rush yds/g

    So the Chargers offense wasn't anymore effective vs their opponents than any other team vs those opponents.

    SD defense compared to opponents offense:

    SD Opponents
    23 PPG allowed : 26.2 PPG = -3.2 PPG allowed
    249 TOT yds/g allowed : 354.3 Tot yds/g = -5.3 Tot yds/g allowed
    252 pass yds/g allowed : 234.1 pass yds/g = +17.9 pass yds/g allowed
    96.7 rush yds/g allowed : 120.2 rush yds/g = -23.5 rush yds/g

    The Chargers defense was more effective against the run vs their opponents average, they were slightly more effective limiting points and total yards vs their opponents, but were not effective against the pass vs their opponents.


    Now for the Patriots.

    NE offense compared to opponents defense:

    NE Opponents
    37.4 PPG : 19.4 PPG allowed = +18 PPG
    413.6 Tot yds/g : 307.3 tot yds/g allowed = + 106.3 Tot yds/g
    310.9 pass yds/g : 205 pass yds/g allowed = + 105.9 pass yds/g
    104.3 rush yds/g : 102.2 rush yds/g allowed = + 2.1 rush yds/g

    The Patriots have been, well, the most effective team (offensively) vs their opponent in the history of the NFL. Averaging 2 1/2 TDs more and 100+ total and passing yards more vs their opponents is ridiculous.

    NE defense compared to opponents offense:

    NE opponents
    18.6 PPG allowed : 25.2 PPG = - 6.6 PPG allowed
    300.8 Tot yds/g allowed : 342.5 Tot yds/g = - 41.7 Tot yds/g allowed
    207.3 pass yds/g allowed : 217.9 pass yds/g = - 10.6 pass yds/g allowed
    93.6 rush yds/g allowed : 124.7 rush yds/g = -31.3 rush yds/g allowed

    The Patriots have been very effective (defensively) vs their opponents, giving up almost 1 TD less than their opponents average and significantly less total and rushing yards per game.


    In conclusion, the Patriots offense has been FAR FAR FAR more effective vs their opponents than the Chargers have. The Patriots have also been significantly more effective defensively against their opponents than the Chargers have.

    So again, the stats speak for themselves. The Patriots are 8-0 against winning teams while the Chargers are only 4-3 against winning teams. The Patriots have been significantly more dominant, both defensively and offensively, in these games than the Chargers.
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2008
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    When did they play the Jags and Colts?
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    They beat the Colts in week 10, lost to the Jags in week 11, then beat the Colts in the playoffs.

    Interestingly though, the Colts out gained the Chargers by over 200 total yards in their 21-23 loss to the Chargers.

    Its really simple, the Chargers have that impressive. I do believe 17 straight wins while setting over 50 records is better than 8 straight wins.
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