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  1. VJCPatriot

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    They are going bonkers over in the Chargers forum about oooh that was classless. And oooh how dare they celebrate on our field, on our symbol! ROFL Give me a break. We beat you there, we celebrate there. ( http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?p=1391553&posted=1#post1391553 )

    Let's distance it by going to another sport. Who ever heard of an NCAA basketball team winning a sweet 16 berth, and since it's not their 'logo' and 'court' they go quietly home to celebrate. Like NO! The fans are swarming the court. Everyone is jumping around excited. They are taking down the nets! That is called the spontaneity of sports and the thrill of victory.

    It just sticks in the Chargers craws especially because they lost at home. They were embarrassed in their own house in front of their own fans on their own field. That is what REALLY is bugging the Chargers. They just like to call it "no class" when in reality it is just the ultimate bitter pill that they can't swallow.

    Guess what. There's no crying in football. You lose. Take it like a man. You lost on your own field. Too Bad. Heck MORE SHAME on YOU for failing to defend your home turf!

    And then here comes the other argument out of left field - but what the Pats did was after the game. That's what makes it "no class". Oh really? What did the Chargers do AFTER the game last year? Did their coach not yell "that's an ass whuppin" and did not the charger player say "F*** the Patriots and F*** their fans?"

    Yeah the ultimate LOW CLASS team trying to tell the Pats how to be CLASSY. What a JOKE!

    The truth of the matter is that LT can't accept losing. And the only way he can shift the burden off his own shoulders is try to take a shot at the Pats and BB by calling them 'low class'. I think LT's entire publicity stunt is LOW CLASS. Shame on you LT and Shame on you sycophantic Chargers fans buying into the new 'mass opium' - We LOST but they had NO CLASS.

    So that's way more important!! Right keep telling yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night. I know Raiders fans were whining about the 'fumble' for years. And if you don't even make it to the big show next year I hope it eats away at you. Because it takes a real LOW CLASS individual to attempt to shift blame from himself by calling out other teams for responding to behavior that your own team instigated!
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    they cant face it..some this morning said wow LT made himself look bad by saying that..not good

    but other than that..were the blame because we arent Chargers
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    Of course they are. They are going to go anything to vilify us. If they found out Tom Brady couched without covering his mouth they would jump on him. Anything to take their minds off that wonderfully devestating loss.

    By the way, remember how Jets fans did the same thing last week saying that the Vinny kneel down was a shot at them? If you can't win the next best thing is to find a way to drag down the integrity of your opponent.
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    #12 Jersey

    What else they got? :rolleyes: The rug was ripped out from under their feat. They were already setting up their Super Bowl festivities. I'm not even doing that and the Pats are 1 game closer than Sandy Eggo ever was. :p
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    Ohh well... who cares if Chargers fans are bitter? So are Raiders, Jets, Rams, Dolphins, Steelers, Bills fans, etc. What matters is will Colts fans be crying this time next week.
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    Oh yeah I almost forgot about the hubub about the Vinny kneeldown. I dismissed it as typical egotistical new yorker fans thinking everything is a shot aimed at their psyche. But yeah it is a coping mechanism.

    When things go wrong humans look for someone, anyone, other than themselves to blame. What I really can't stand in this media circus affair is how LT "self-proclaims" himself as CLASSY. And then proceeds to badmouth the Pats and their organization top to bottom!! Yes that's right in his second press conference LT said it must start from top to bottom. He's not satisfied with badmouthing our coach, he wants to smear the entire Pats organization rep.

    And for what, on what basis, doing Merriman's "Lights out Dance"?? That is the most childish and most absurd reason to hold a grudge that I have ever heard of. What gets me steamed though is LT trying to use his reputation as a "CLASSY" individual in his smear campaign of the Pats. And of course Chargers fans are eating this up like opium candy! Yes the solution to your pain of course is to blame someone else! That just displays the LOWEST side of human nature in my opinion.

    If you got wounds little doggy go into the corner and lick em. Don't try to go all "holier than thou" when you know you were the dog that got outfought in the dogfight on Sunday!!
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    i would have had no problem with it during the game if it's not on the bolt at midfield, and after the game if it was just on the sidelines or not on the bolt, it's pretty classless.
    just ask yourself what you guys would do if the chargers did some kind of dance on your midfield after a pats loss, or any team beating you at home and dancing on your midfield after a loss.

    i think LT was wrong to blame it on belichik sure, but it was pretty classless and rare because the pats are a pretty classy organization
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    The Pats have no class is a myth...

    Dryland is a myth! :D
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    I can accept that. If I had my choice I would rather Hobbs had not done what he did, but the way the Chargers and the media have turned it into a crusade against the entire Patriots organization is what pisses me off.
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    i do agree that LT has made way too much out of it

    i think they're just looking for something to blame when marlon mccree is staring them right in the face lol.

    i think they'll cool off but i am thinking they bought into the hype too much, like they were some kind of promised and destined team.

    did you guys have to deal with that last year? or was it just like no big deal we'll just be back next year?
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    suck it up and go play with your draft board

    San Diego is yesterday's news, and I will be glad when everyone realizes it.
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    I'm totally with you, VJC, LT has really embarrassed himself these past two days.

    LT's self-righteousness is disgusting - the guy is a sore loser and just can't admit it. He makes up this whole "class" issue to deflect the attention of his own stupid actions.

    There are jacka**es out there in the NFL that are a pain in the ass:

    The TOs. The "Lights Out"s. To be honest, as big a jerkof*s as guys like that are, LT is way worse in my eyes. Nothing is worse than someone who pretends to be something they aren't. A guy like Merriman acts like a jacka** and makes no apologies. LT is all concerned about his "classy" image and tries to smear us in the process of keeping his image clean.

    To hell with him, he's the lowest of the low, in my book. He's immature and childish, and maybe one day in the near or distant future he'll admit his mistakes, but until then, LT is a joke to me.
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    Sorry pal but I gotta disagree. If you don't want the other team celebrating on your field, you DEFEND it. Your team failed to do that.

    As far as I know the US department of State has not declared the Charger's Bolt at midfield a national monument. :rolleyes: And the way that I see it, you disrespect your opponent, expect to get it back. It is well documented how the Chargers talked down to the Pats the week heading into the game, incited them, talked about hitting Brady in the mouth, had created bad blood starting from their actions LAST YEAR etc.

    What it boils down to is this. Shawne Merriman is no SAINT. He is a THUG, an ARROGANT PUNK, and a verified STEROID USER. And for LT to base his crusade off disrespect directed towards Shawne Merriman is simply LUDICROUS!
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    Last year we had some real low points throughout our season, one of which was when we got killed by your team. We lost both our starting inside linebackers, though onw came back all of our running backs were hurt, and we had tons of injuries on our offensive line. In retrospect, it is amazing we got as far as we did.

    Regardless, the loss in Denver hurt. Part of it was from questionable officiating, but most of it was because we turned the ball over five times.
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    there just a bunch of denial cases. One who says they have class usually deep inside has the least.
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    Patriots are the CLASS of the class.

    SD is BITTER--sore sore losers.

    chasing #4 out of 6 and every other team is pissed because we aren't letting them play.

    :singing:
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    yeah and if tedy had done the same thing as LT you'd be all over his nuts....proclaiming him to be standing up for patriot pride...we know
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    The way I look at Tomlinson is that it's one thing to be classy and graceful when you are in the middle of a 14-2, record breaking season and are named NFL MVP, but it's when you encounter tough times and adversity where you really see what somone is made of. Tomlinson has made it clear he's a bitter whiner.
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    some pats are classy some are far from it...just like in your fan base, some of you are cool, some are just trolls
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    yeah and if your guy did the same thing you'd be all over him talking him up and saying he was just standing up for his team......you guys imagine more crap than some of your players lol
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    so you'd have no problem with some team doing the same to your midfield after a game?
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    If one of our plays insinuated that a few plays acting badly was because of their coach--who has proven in his overall body of work that he is a pretty respectful guy when it comes to the other team, believe me, I would have a problem with that.
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    which means you guys have the least cause you keep saying you're the class of the league.....

    i mean i know my team isn't the class of the league , we have arrests lol
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    ok that's fair, and yeah i do think LT shouldn't have even brought BB into this, you can't hold the head coach of a team responsible for every single thing a few of his players do

    and i got MAD respect for BB
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    You hit on exactly what irks me about this as well. How can you stand there with a straight face and defend SHAWNE MERRIMAN of all people? Mr. "Lights Out" "I'm gonna hit Tom Brady in the face!" It's just really annoying. And you know the sad thing is that the people who look up to LT will be fooled by it and give weight to his words. Hell they've already given plenty of AIR time to it. A lot of these people will play along just because LT won the MVP trophy, so that means he's got to be right!! WRONG.

    Put it this way. There's this real punk kid going around the neighborhood breaking things, vandalizing the streets, and stealing the other kids lunch money. LT is the guy standing up and saying "Don't you talk bad about my boy Shawne now! He ain't done no wrong. It's the people that bait him with their dances that have no class!"

    I would like to end this by saying anybody that dares to publicly declare himself CLASSY is an egotist. Plain and simple. You want to smear the Pats because you lost? Don't try to hide behind some smug self-righteous "look at me I'm classy" and "you're not" attitude. That is the part that is most sickening. And it is way LOWER than any midfield dance, I don't care if the Pats had a TRAPEZE artist out there!

    What that if a team came into Foxboro, beat us on our home field, and did a little dance? We'd get over it. I can guarantee you one thing though. There wouldn't be a single player from the Pats going on a self-righteous media crusade to SMEAR the entire organization that beat them. You want LOW CLASS LT? Try looking in the mirror!!
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    Everything youve said has been on point - I know this just a rehash of what you just said, btu I gotta say it b/c its so damn true...

    god honest truth, if the Bolts came in here and won in Foxborough in a playoff game, and Merriman came in and did his stupid dance on center field after winning, you know what every single Pats fans and every single Pats player would do? They would just STFU b/c that's what you do when you lose.

    The winners won the right to dance, the losers won the right to STFU. End of story. No lie, no joke, that's the damn truth, and if a Pats player were to bytch about something as trivial as a dance after they had just blown an 8 point lead, I would be very, very disappointed in that player.

    Did the Pats utter one word of nonsense after the Broncos beat them last year?
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    "FUCCKK the Chargers and FUCCKK their fans".
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    I'm sure it's been said but haven't read it in this particular post... BUT...

    Even aside from all the BS the Chargers seem okay with dishing out when they win, there is this to consider:

    A "sack dance" is an inherently disrespectful, as well as egotistical, habit. That's why CLASSY teams don't display that kind of behavior. It's not only assinine and juvenile, it's a distraction, a lot like the elaborate TD celebrations on the other side of the ball.

    Hey, "Lights Out," the whole joke is that you're a self-parody in the first place. Lady Tom, it's all good and well to want to have your teammates' backs... but it's been 24 hours now... don't you have golf to play or something?

    Right now there's no counter-coverage in the media, because the Pats are locked down for the Colts (at least, I am not seeing anything in the national press.) Interesting turnabout... the Chargers, having lost, have decided to go on trash-talking, traditionally the province of winners. The Pats, having won, are (as Elmer J. Fudd said,) very, very quiet.

    "We're hunting Colts."

    PFnV
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    LMAO... the thread you linked to is a 105-page Charger whineathon!
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    I can't help but wonder why the hell we are wasting so much time on this subject.

    Class or no class ... isn't that in the eye of the beholder? I mean - isn't it a completely subjective evaluation?

    We'll never agree with the chargers about what happened and who had class or not. BUT WHO CARES?

    Reality is: We won!
    Reality is: We came to their house and took it all away from them!
    Reality is: They think they gave it away and we didn't deserve it.
    Reality is: They stunk!
    Reality is: We're in the Conference Final!
    Reality is: They're not!

    The San Diego Charges brought so little to the game, that the ONLY thing the charges fans can argue is the relative "class" of a post-game celebration move.

    They're not talking about our "lucky" win - because it wasn't lucky and they know this.
    They're not talking about bad referees - because the refs were on their side and they know this.
    They're not talking about injuries, bad playcalling (okay - perhaps that 4th and 11 call) or weather conditions - because it had no real impact and they know this.

    They don't talk, because they know that they straight up LOST. They got beat, outcoached, outplayed, outworked. They met a team that wanted it more, and they LOST. Plain and simple.

    That little bit of reality sent them into complete DENIAL. And all this talk about "classless" Pats is the only thing they have left as an excuse for not talking about their own poor performance.

    WE don't need excuses!
    WE didn't promise fans and media all sorts of joyous celebrations ahead of time.
    WE didn't spend hours talking down our oponents.
    WE FOCUSED!
    WE kept grinding and grinding through that game, and when it came to CLUTCH, OUR guys stepped up BIG TIME.
    WE WON IT!
    We didn't "steal" it.
    It wasn't "given" to us.
    We came to their house and we TOOK it.

    THEN we celebrated for a couple of minutes.
    AND GOT BACK TO WORK!

    On sunday, we are back in the CLUTCH, while the chargers are back in the COUCH.

    Let's stop this mindless debating who has more "class", and get back to BUSINESS !!
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