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  1. bmf31c

    bmf31c Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Gabe Kapler
    Jay Payton
    Dave Roberts
    Jeremy Reed

    If we can get 2 of these guys, we should be fine.

    Thoughts????
     
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    I would love to get Payton back, but the way he went out might not be a good thing...although he would be starting this time. Reed wouild be nice as well. We will get Kapler once he is healthy again.
     
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    well

    I don't want payton back--let him go! He was trouble here and we don't need that. He would be playing everyday; but he already showed his character! I would like to see manny, reed, trot, and kapler backing them up. I wouldn't complain if got roberts, but he's not really an everyday guy!
     
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    Well

    I am not on the coco bandwagon! I would rather see jeremy reed here: he is better defensive player and won't cost us top prospects and half the team to get. In addition, we are still having to pay part of rent-a-wrecks contract (who we traded for marte) so that has to factor in!
     
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    I think you'd find Theo in agreement with you about Reed - but indeed the asking price is too high right now - supposedly Arroyo and a top prospect.

    I like Arroyo and unless we are trading our prospects for a proven potential all star, I'd prefer to keep them, even if that means missing the playoffs this year.
     
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    Johnny Mac Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Sox agree to Marte/Mota for Crisp.

    I'm taking it with a grain of salt for now.

    I like Crisp. I think he'll be a great addition to the club, and that he'll rake in Fenway. But I'm really sad we'll never get to see Marte in a Sox uniform. I had a somewhat irrational desire to hold onto him no matter what. I've got to believe we're getting more than Just Crisp for both Marte and Mota.

    I would've liked to get Reed, but Seattle was demanding Arroyo and Lester. That's just absurd, so I'm glad we walked away from that.


    I also don't care for the potential signing of Gonzalez.
     
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    wow. i like crisp his numbers and his age .how long did they lock up gonzalez ? i hope its not more than two years .i would like to see them get another chance at a top level free agent ss .
     
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    Probably paid too much for Gonzalez.

    I really wanted them to hold on to Marte, he's going to be really good.
     
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    This, besides Tejada, is probably the biggest splash they could make PR wise.
     
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    coco crisp last year www.indians.com 300 batting average 16 homers 69 rbi nothing wrong with those numbers .hes also a switch hitter and a excellent defensive fielder.
     
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    He's an excellent LFer. He's decidedly mediocre in center.
     
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    That's what i am afraid of----no one is arguing that he couldn't play left well. However the fact that we are taking a left fielder and turning him into a centerfielder is weird. (not to mention giving up marte and co to do so). I know the price would have been steeper, but i still think jeremy reed was the way to go. Everyone is quoted as saying championship teams are very strong up the middle----and what did we just do but move a leftfielder over to center and sign a guy for short who really isn't much of an upgrade over cora????

    I am on record saying we should have gotten reed for center and o-cab back at short! We are already going to have a drop in O production, now it's getting really bad!
     
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    the games i watched him play in center he looked good to me. i love this trade the braves dont give up prospects they are high on or they would have kept marte .
     
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    Johnny Mac Third String But Playing on Special Teams

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    Sorry if I don't trust your assessment over the actual stats.
     
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    ya


    Normally you are right on the money, but having locked up 3rd for quite a while they really didn't have a choice in the matter! We'll see what happens, but i am still a little iffy---i mean we won't have lowell that long at 3rd so it would have been nice to have marte ready to go in a couple years!
     
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    i think your referring to me? if you dont trust the stats i quoted go to www.indians.com and see for yourself .
     
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    thats a good point but keep in mind the sox control crisp threw 2009 and hes just 26 .
     
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    The thing is, Coco Crisp was way better in his away games than he was playing at home in Cleveland.

    The Sox know this and are banking on a big improvement by him just moving over to Fenway.

    If Crisp can fix his strikeout to walk ratio, he could be just as good as Johnny Damon for a fraction of the price and about 6 years younger!!!

    .
     
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    I was referring to your claim that he's an excellent CFer.
     

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