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CB Jamell Fleming is being released today (2012 - 3rd RD pick)

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    Why would we want a player that was released after being drafted in the 3rd round only a year ago? The Cardinals have drafted incredibly well in recent years. If they don't think he's any good, they're probably right.
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    Some tweets regarding Patriots interest in Fleming.
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    If he's an improvement on Cole then I am all for it. Marquice Cole has no business seeing an NFL field unless it's strictly as a Special Teams player.
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    Does Fleming play STs? Does he play STs well?

    Otherwise, just have him in for a shadow roster look see. He'd be PS available though, so that too.
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    He did 23 reps at the combine that’s pretty impressive for a cornerback, what exactly went wrong in Arizona; they don’t seem like a team that would be just throwing away talented players unless there was something going on.

    Jamell Fleming*|*Oklahoma,*CB*:*2012 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

    The Cardinals do have a ton of depth at cornerback so maybe that led to some displeasure by Fleming and he was becoming a cancer in the locker room, seems like a talented player, I’d take a flyer.

    http://tracking.si.com/2013/09/14/arizona-cardinals-release-jamell-fleming/
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    As a big Sooner Fan living in Norman I have seen all this guys games. He has talent. It was raw coming out of college, but I think it might be able to be developed. I've never heard character issues. I wouldn't be disappointed if they took a chance with him. He is at least as good as Cole....maybe...
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    Hate for Marquise ? He seems like a good boy. He plays STs, he keeps his mouth shut, and stays out of trouble.

    Is he good ? Not overly. But he is a ST player. Not the starting shutdown CB.
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    I think we could devote one more spot for a DB.
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    Jamell Fleming Draft Profile ? NFL.com

    Jamell Fleming, CB, Oklahoma, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

    In the nfl.com link, Mayock mentions his ST ability; in the cbssports link, Fleming himself
    mentions his ST ability.

    I would absolutely place a claim for him, for both his past work on STs (does anyone recall
    Cole's bonehead downing of one of Allen's punts before its second bounce?) and his potential
    as our #5 CB.
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    Some team will probably claim him before the Pats. There had to be at least a few teams higher on the waiver priority than the Pats who had him on their board last year.
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    Yeah; I'd be very surprised if no team before the Pats in the claiming order made one for him.
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    One fifth of the current roster isn't enough for you?
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    Yeah, what the hell was that about? It seemed as though there was a lot of room left still, but I haven't rewatched the replay or anything. I do remember thinking that though.
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    The same logic could have been used when the Steelers had no use for Mike Vrabel...but we found a use for him.
    We've wasted time, draft picks, roster spots, and money on worse players.
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    Unless they have some inside information on him that clearly states his heart isn't in it or has a complicated injury, I think they should put a claim in on him.
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    Hope we take a look
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    Considering that is 40% of the defensive roster, and our real base D has 5 DBs out of 11 players, maybe not. When you add in that at least 2 of he DBs on the roster today are there solely for special teams, I'd say sure there is room for another.
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    What signifcance does that particular fraction have? In today's NFL, I think having one more DB who can play in some schemes and play special teams has more utility than backups at other positions. I'd rather have a defensive back up for a while that we can stick on the practice squad as needed, because they get injured more and breaking in a DB in an emergency sucks, as we have seen many times over the years.

    We have at least one less productive roster spot we could just as easily utilize putting that player on the PS for a while, IMO.
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    You're comparing a player who played out his rookie deal versus a player who got cut less than two weeks into his sophomore season? Not close, sorry.
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    I see no downside to bringing him in and checking him out.

    Any time you can upgrade the roster,you have to do it.
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    Absolutely agree ...

    You can bring anyone in to replace the bottom guy of any unit at any time short of cap issues.
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    If Fleming projects to be better than the 53rd player on the roster, I think you have to bring him in.

    However, it does give pause for thought why a team would jettison a Day 2 pick in only his second year.
    Not sure if there was a scheme change in Arizona this year or if he just got pushed down the pecking order due to newer additions, but if the Pats thought he was interesting through the draft process, I guess they will put in a claim, even though he is likely to be claimed by another team.
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    No surprise then that Jax claimed him right off the bat. Oh well. Jeremy Ebert waived
    in order to make room.
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    see??????...that proves it...Pats sukkk
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    Ebert can come back here...maybe he is better now.
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    I posted earlier that Jax can have Ebert, but if he isn't re-signed to their PS, then it would
    make sense that he should be brought here for at least a workout.

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