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    With all due respect, is it out of the realm of possibility that BB isn't showing all of his card? We know how his "injury report" works, Harbs follows the same lineage.
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    Why Belichick has picked Casserly to have a public war with, I have no idea. It's very unBelichick and Casserly, unfortunately, was right about the camera issue.
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    I agree. Both the field and Casserly comments were very unBelichick. Thing is, Casserly has been right since he left the Redskins, notably Mario Williams and numerous non-Pats stories, mostly league business, he's broken on CBS. I think it's just a personal issue with Belichick.
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    I actually enjoy Casserly a lot. Prob the only thing I really want to see on pre-game shows. He was right about Mario - bigtime - and he endured a lot of heat for the pick.

    But, BB is still the best. He is funny. I guess he's so unfunny on camera that he's BECOME funny ! As long as he wins twice as much as he loses, he's OK.
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    Has any of you ever HAD a broken rib, let alone supposedly THREE of them. Rolling over in bed is something you try to avoid with broken ribs, let alone play a football game. Let alone try and throw a football with any accuracy. I'd believe bruised ribs, but playing NFL football with BROKEN ribs is beyond the realm of reality

    All these guys just throw sh!t against the wall and see if any sticks. In those rare instances that they are call on it, the simply restate their case even louder. When it looks like they are wrong, they continue to "say it ain't so". and when finally there can be no doubt that they are wrong, they simply ignore the fact that they made the original statement.
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    I'm wondering if this goes back to when Casserly was the GM of the Redskins and began with a deal that went South. There's a long, long, list of columnists, announcers, sportscasters, etc. who have trashed Bill, yet, he chooses to grind his axe with Charlie.
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    Some additional possibilities besides the personal angle (and clearly just speculation):

    1.) This could lead to questions of whether or not the Patriots were being upfront 'enough' about the injury report.

    2.) It's a convenient distraction in a week where questioning why Welker was on the field would be an alternate topic. When media sees media attacked, the focus changes.
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    Great!!! spygate, now ribgate
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    My impression from listening to the BB interview was that he was speaking only in terms of Casserly's knowledge of what goes on within the Pats organization, especially after he said that Casserly never even attends any practices or games, so how would he be in a position to know anything about the Pats. However, I'm guessing that he doesn't mind if others interpret it more broadly, especially Casserly. :D Still, it is always a little surprising when BB lets some snark fly because it's pretty rare, but I get a kick out of it!
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    Except we wont lose a draft pick because someone assumed Brady had broken ribs.
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    Well said...after listening to the interview myself, this pretty much puts in prospective. BB did give casserly credit for at least putting his (casserly) name on the story.
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    Yeah, right after he "gave him credit" for attaching his name to the story, Belichick said that you can attach his name to him saying Casserly was "100% wrong." Very unBelichick-like, at least for the public sphere. I'm sure he drops nuggets like that chatting on the phone with friends/colleagues/reporters.

    I think Deus Irae might be onto something with the deflecting attention from Welker angle.
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    What are you guys talking about?? :confused:
    It's very Belichick like to publicly smack down Casserly. He's only done it a FEW times over the years.
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    By the way, what's with the "Bill Belichick Bashers" tag? Not one person has bashed Belichick to this point in the thread.
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    I think some of those are automatic.
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    Saw my Orthopedic Doctor, he is the team doctor for the Providence Bruins and Brown University... aside from the gloom and doom about Welker, said no way Brady could be cleared or play with three broken ribs...
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    For what it's worth, someone much closer to the team, Shalise Manza Young, reported about an hour after Casserly's report that Brady did have broken ribs, and that he didn't break them in Miami, but rather broke them in the preseason and re-aggravated them in Week 2 @ NYJ. So this isn't just a Casserly report. Bill Simmons also reported he had broken ribs (albeit he said he broke them in Miami), and our own mcsully posted in early December that Brady had broken ribs, from an MGH source.
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    Do not disagree, but this well thought of Doctor said no way, cracked or bruised maybe... that is all. All am offering is a point of information, from someone who knows more than I...
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    Cracked ribs and broken ribs are the same thing. "Broken" isn't actually in the orthopedic response. It would be called a fracture of some kind.
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    Not going to argue medicine, just reiterating what he told me... in reality do not understand most of the subtleties.. he was in a hurry as he had to be on TV about the Welker stuff..
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    Questioning why Wleker was on the field? Never heard anyone do that; even the media maroons weren't that dumb.

    There may be a few fans who say we should have rested all our starters the entire game, but there is always 10% of any group who are clueless.

    Not even Polian rested his little fellas in the first offensive series of either of the last two games.

    The fact that Wleker got hurt the first series shows how numb it is to pull players in the second half to guarantee that they don't get hurt.
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    Yea but Peyton got his 4500 yards exactly.. thought this was a team sport:confused::confused:
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    Nice zinger...
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    Quite a few media members were questioning it. Of course, that doesn't matter to people who can't grasp simple realities like "Faulk sat out the game".
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    I suspect Casserly had potty training issues as a small child. The man seems incredibly tense and anal. I definitely would not invite him to a party.
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    You're afraid he'd poop his pants?
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    Never thought about that possibility, but good point. Actually, the guy is extraordinarily humorless. He'd put a damper on everything.
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    I had some vague recollections about Casserly from the tail end of his Houston days and since Bill is somehow now the logical choice to not get the benefit of the doubt here i did a little digging. Seems he'd always been a somewhat pompus ass and folks like that aren't generally the type to own up which usually means they've thrown a few people under the bus along the way. Dom Capers would be one of those.

    Charlie rose up through the ranks in DC and had some success as a GM before the legendary HOF HC departed. Thereafter it was all downhill. And he was sued by a potential buyer for the Redskins (who lost out to Snyder who had promised to keep Charlie on but soon reneged :D) over some sort of shenanigans that he felt cost him the franchise...

    He was then hired to launch the expansion Texans and we all know how that went although somehow lately he gets residual credit for a pick most texans insiders claim he had nothing to do with (although he is apparently the kind of guy who would take credit for any success while shifting blame onto the coaches for any failure).

    Sounds like a guy Bill wouldn't like just on principle. Add to that his position on the competition committee, something a guy predisposed to currying media favor should never be considered for, and I think I'm on to something... For all his self importance, he supposedly left Houston to persue a league job that never materialized. I think it was commissioner...

    Remembering Charley Casserly's role in this mess | SportsJustice | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle
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    the ironic part is he looks just like moe howard.
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