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  1. Harry Boy

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    When you go to the Link look at the picture of "Racist Gates" he's got Hate written all over him, he probably hates Snow.

    Todays News:
    The second-luckiest guys in Massachusetts this week are Gov. Deval Patrick and Mayor Mumbles Menino - they’re gearing up to tax us all back to the Stone Age and no one is paying them the slightest bit of attention.

    The luckiest guy, of course, is the Rev., excuse me, Professor Henry Louis “Skip” Gates Jr., who is battling The Man - and The Man’s mama. Good career move, Skippy - pulling this Sharpton should triple your lecture fees and get you a book advance in the high six figures, plus longer limos and even more endowed chairs, plus all the rest of that stuff that you’ve been denied in AmeriKKKa because - oh, that’s right, you went to Yale, didn’t you, before you got the tenured job at Harvard?

    How many billions have been spent on McGruff the Crime Dog, Neighborhood Watch and “See Something, Say Something” - all designed to get people to call 911 when they see a possible crime in progress. So a cop responds, and gets dressed down by the president of the United States. Skippy was right. That cop didn’t know who he was messin’ with.
    Gates saga a taxation distraction - BostonHerald.com
     
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    Handcuffing a man on his own property for name calling is absurd. Gates was in the wrong, but so was the cop. The cop was not physically threatened and was not touched. Gates is not a big guy or a young guy, and he carries a cane.

    It makes me think of the tax cheats up in Hamilton, MA a few years ago, who the right wing stood by while those people forced the government to spend tens of thousands of dollars waiting them out. Why the double standard here? Why should those people have been treated with kid gloves, while Gates is treated like a common criminal? The double standard of the right wing, when it comes to family values and race issues, continues to cost them in terms of credibility.
     
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    The cop was wrong? I think you need to be more specific here. Do you think he broke the law? Violated police procedure? If it is one of those two, people should be clamoring for the officer to be reprimanded, but we haven't seen anything there. Or is there something else that he did wrong? Some people want to spread the blame to the cop but I still fail to see what blame the officer should take.
     
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    You mean Gates was packing iron, too!!??? Reminds of that former Washington Past columnist who used to rail about "all the unregistered guns" in DC ..... until one day a burglar came to his house and he pulled out an ..... unregistered gun!!!! :eek: .

    Oh, well, guess he was just in the spirit of the CRA: two separate -- and not parallel -- universes, where there are rules for most but exceptions for a few.

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    Carr is twisting the facts, like Fox News.

    No one is blaming the neighbor for calling, or the cop for showing up.

    The cop was ridiculous for arresting a guy in his own home, AFTER proof of residency had been provided.

    If the cop had been more cool headed or the better man, he would have left after checking out the situation and realizing the neighbor had been wrong.
     
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    Mad Racists in their frenzy and hate can do a lot of damage with a Cane.
     
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    The cop was not wrong. Gates was. Gates broke the law. No matter how small it may be, he did disobey and order from a police officer. He would not and did not cooperate with the cops questions. In fact, he refused to answer questions given to him by the officer. And its not like Gates was cooperative at first, then got annoyed with the cop and then started to yell at him. He was doing that from the second the cop got there. It was a very simply situation that was thrown completely out of hand by Gates refusal to cooperate with the police (who was there to help him) and by his obvious racism. Obama, Deval Patrick and Professor gates keep bringing up racial profilling. But who was the only person in this incident that brought up anything racial? Gates!
     
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    OK, you say the cop was "ridiculous". So here's what you do: go out onto the street, find a cop who's been called to check out a scene. Then, start screaming at him (or her) at the top of your lungs, calling him a "racist" and every other name you can think of. Go ahead. Try it out. Then come back and report what happens.


    (We'll wait until Sunday for your return, after you, too, spend the night cooling off in the hoosegow. ;) )


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    No, I don't think the cops a racist; I don't think he broke the law; and I think that Gates was a jerk. But, I do think it was unnecessary to arrest and handcuff Gates on his own property in front of his neighbors. There is certainly evidence that blacks are treated differently than whites, and Gates, not being a criminal, probably made the assumption that if he had been a white guy, the cop would have treated him differently. Minorities are often treated differently and that creates a certain amount of distrust, which is something that the officer, who teaches racial profiling, should have kept in mind.

    All said, I don't think Obama should have piped in with his two cents because the cop is jut an ordinary guy, who doesn't deserve public criticism from the President of the United States. I thought that was insensitive of Obama, given that this whole incident is really an insignificant example of anything from either a left or right wing point of view.
     
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    why does the cop need to be cool headed? That is the most rediculous thing I have heard. From everything that has been reported, the Cop was cool-headed from the get go while Gates was abusive, non-cooperative and rude from the second the cop shows up. The fact that because Gates was in his home is ludicrous. Does the law mean less when you are at your home?
     
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    That is false. Gates did present his driver's license and Harvard card, proving his employment and also residence.

    At that point, after establishing the neighbor's call was wrong, everything afterward was the fault of the officer.
     
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    A man has a right to voice his opinion about being mistreated in his own home. The cop lost his cool when he thought that he could arrest the man even though there was no complaint from a neighbor. That is an abuse of authority. If he keeps walking and drives away, Gates closes his door and life goes back to normal.
     
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    False. Gates did. That was why he was angry in the first place.

    False. Gates was not arrested for breaking and entering. Proof of residency had nothing to do with why he was arrested.

    False. The cop did leave after the proof of residency was established. This comes from Gates own statement. Gates followed him outside where he continued to make a scene.
     
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    I was wondering how long it would take for our Beautiful President to get into "the race thing" I wonder if he or his Cohorts will blame the falure of his Communist Health Care crap on "racism"

    This guy Gates belongs in the same row boat as David Duke and we have a US President backing him up, it's disgusting, GW Bush would be crucified for something like this.

    We don't know anything about Barack Hussein Obama, do we..........:confused:
     
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    thanks for clearing that up. Really, what is so hard to understand. The cop did not loss his cool. Gates did. In fact, Gates never was cool. He was abusive from the get go. And you are right about a man having the right to voive his opinion. But there is a difference with disagreeing with a cop, and making false accusations and yelling at a cop.
     
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    No. Gates had already broken the law by not cooperating with the cop when he was there to investigate a possible crime. And from all accounts, the cop tried several times, in a calm voice, to get Gates to calm down. I never realized that asking a man who is making false accusations at you to calm down is a crime or wrong?
     
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    Cop made a horrible arrest. He blew it. If losing your mind is losing your cool, well, he lost both.

    Many cops need a good yelling at.
     
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    And you know who is supposed to give them that yelling at? Their superior officers. You know, their real bosses.
     
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    The people are both their bosses. You know, the taxpayers who hire them to perform a service to the taxpayers.
     

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