Cap cuts?

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  1. cstjohn17

    cstjohn17 Supporter Supporter

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    Tis the season, any last second cuts by the Pats?

    Vrabel would be a shock but in this economy no one is safe. Deep year OLB in the draft hurts as well.

    Faulk could be released as well.

    That would clear up $6-$7 M but man would it suck.
  2. thewaylifeshouldbe

    thewaylifeshouldbe Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    Do we need to be under the cap right now, or is their a deadline to be?

    For instance: We sign like mad to the tune of 10's of millions, and then whittle away the bulk of it to be under by the deadline?

    Miguel or any that know?
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  3. Brettlax3434

    Brettlax3434 Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    If we trade Cassel for draft picks we dont have to cut people to make cap room.
  4. JSn

    JSn Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    I read we have to be under the cap by midnight (we are) but it's calculated based on the 35 highest salaries on the team or some number like that?
  5. thewaylifeshouldbe

    thewaylifeshouldbe Third String But Playing on Special Teams

    After I posted I did a little research. You're right about midnight.

    What time is the Cassel trade going to be announced?
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  6. JSn

    JSn Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract


    Well, that's when I'm going to bed, anyway. They better get that crap done for me...

    Really, though I think it's going to happen very quickly.
  7. jays52

    jays52 In the Starting Line-Up

    #91 Jersey

    I hear ya. Just got back from the store with a 4 pack of redbulls. Don't figure to be overly productive tomorrow anyway.
  8. NE39

    NE39 Rotational Player and Threatening Starter's Job

    Faulk could end up being a casualty, as releasing him would save $3.5M according to Adam Schefter.

    However, one would think the Patriots would work out a new contract with him to deal with that, as he is still a valuable role player.

    That said, I think people take the reports of cap room too seriously. Granted, the Pats have less room than pretty much everyone because they are playing top QB money to two guys. However, if there was a room that they really wanted to make, the cap wouldn't stop them. They could restructure deals or cut a guy or something to make the room. The cap wouldn't be an issue to making a deal.
  9. Seels

    Seels On the Game Day Roster

    I never thought I'd say this before this last year or two, if it's between Faulk and Vrabel give me Faulk. Vrabel has all but disappeared since the 07 game in Pittsburgh.
  10. JSn

    JSn Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Agreed. Faulk was awesome last year.

    Personally, I'd rather see Bru hang 'em up and move a recovered Vrabes inside, though. He was playing with a frigged up shoulder last year.
  11. ctpatsfan77

    ctpatsfan77 Supporter Supporter

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    51 instead of 53.

    In any case, Vrabel is, per Miguel, owed $1M tomorrow morning, so if they want to cut him--which is doubtful--they'd have to do it tonight. Faulk they might well just restructure to reduce his cap hit by $1-2M.
  12. JSn

    JSn Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Thanks. I was reaching into the memory banks for something I glossed over.

    Are we allowed to aiming for 80 guys again at midnight as well?
  13. billdog3484

    billdog3484 Supporter Supporter

    yah a good point. i wonder if we trade him tonight. id be surprised
  14. pats1

    pats1 Moderator Supporter

    For all intents and purposes, it's been at 80 since the season ended.
  15. JSn

    JSn Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

    Ah, ok. Thanks.
  16. billdog3484

    billdog3484 Supporter Supporter

    i cant see us cutting faulk, but i can see a restructuring. vrabel, i can see him being cut. espcially if we pick up peppers for cassel. wed have a lot of LBs and he is way too expensive
  17. DW Toys

    DW Toys In the Starting Line-Up

    According to Tom Marino if these players are cut or left to go FA we free up $16,647,000, not including a Cassel trade.

    Harrison, Rodney DB 14 3,732,500 Colvin, Rosevelt LB 9 1,932,500 Wright, Mike DE 3 1,422,500 Gaffney, Jabar WR 6 1,282,000 Sanders, James DS 3 1,026,000 O'Neal, Deltha DC 8 1,000,000 Hochstein, Russ OG 7 890,000 Paxton, Lonie LS 8 884,000 Evans, Heath RB 7 856,000 Jordan, LaMont RB 7 850,000 Hanson, Chris PT 7 761,500 Izzo, Larry LB 12 490,000 Sanders, Lewis DC 8 489,500 Williams, Tank DB 6 276,500 Smith, Kenny DT 5 274,000 Seau, Junior LB 18 250,000 Stokes, Barry OT 9 230,000

    I do not know if this is true.
    DW Toys
  18. pats1

    pats1 Moderator Supporter

    It is not; see the spending limit thread. In fact, it's one of the dumbest things I've read in a while. Not sure what Tom Marino is thinking.
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2009
  19. Rob0729

    Rob0729 Supporter Supporter

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    I don't see Vrabel being cut especially since work was he was playing all last year with an injury. I think Bruschi would be pressured into retiring before Vrabel was cut. Bruschi was less productive than Vrabel last year and would save about $2 million.

    Jarvis Green could be another cap casualty or traded player. He is a solid back up, but he is also the sixth largest cap hit if you don't count Cassel. That may be too much for a back up. If the Pats resign Wright, I think Green will be gone. Could be part of a trade to Carolina if the rumors of the Pats going after Peppers is true.

    Nick Kuzcur could be another cut. He is basically a JAG RT and could free up a little over $1 million.

    Other moves they can do is convert Brady's ($3 million) roster bonus into a signing bonus to spread it out over the remainder of his contract or give extentions to Vrabel, Faulk, and a few others who are likely to finish their careers as Patriots to lower their cap.
  20. pats1

    pats1 Moderator Supporter

    Creating a need at RT, one which will be filled for a player who will be paid...a little over $1 million.

    And Bruschi's cap savings would be less if he retires, since the Pats aren't going to ask for his signing bonus money back.
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