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  1. JR4

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    I didn't see a discussion on this but someone just told me that
    Eisen on NFL Network said PATs can't trade the SF Pick.

    Anyone else hear this? Does anyone know of a rule that would make this so?
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    They can trade the pick.

    If the pick was a compensatory pick they couldn't trade it.
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    I have neve heard of any rule like that and i doubt very seriously the NFL would make a team make a pick
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    Eison is a dumb dumb.as! if he said that.
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    I doubt it was in reference to a rule or ruling. More of a refrence that trading out of a top pick is not a regular occurance and to match the "value chart" it would be near impossible to get the value given the salary cap tied up in a top 5 pick.
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    Does it have to do with propagating a pick a number of times

    Hawks pick for Deion -> That Pick for SF's 1st Pick ->> .....

    Is there a limit to number times this can be done?
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    They can trade the SF pick, only FA compensation picks can't be traded.
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    Didn't see it, so let me ask you: are you sure he said that they can't trade it, or is it possible he said they won't be able to trade it?

    The latter is, in fact, a distinct possibility, though not a likely one.
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    I did not hear it. This is second hand and it was apparently said on
    NFL Access. It may not have been Eisen it could have been Schefter or
    one of the other commentators.
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    I've never heard of a rule like that, but it wouldn't be applicable in this situation anyway. The Pats sent the 28th pick in the draft (their pick) to the 9ers.
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    No; in fact, I think there's been at least one pick in the last few years that's traded hands at least five times before it was used.
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    With the exception of compensation picks, all other picks may be traded as often as the owners see fit. There is abso-smurfly no restriction on trading that pick.
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    Eisen is a befuddled doofus
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    We can trade the pick.

    In some years we may not be able to find a buyer. But this is not such a year. There are at least two franchise QBs available and rebuilding teams will pay for a QB. With the #2 pick I would trade in the top five for a team that wants a QB and pickup a pick, then trade down for someone who wants Mcfadden. And get another pick.

    Then trade down to 12-15 and take a Lb or Cb or perhaps an O tackle.
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    It is widely believed that you can't trade a #2 pick anymore.

    This is because:

    1. It is widely understood that salary cap considerations make the top picks worth considerably less than the draft pick value chart (DPVC) indicates.

    2. Any GM that makes a trade in which he gives up a top pick for substantially less than the DPVC indicates will be pilloried by his home town press.


    New England is the exception to this rule because everybody knows that our head coach is god, and the press is scared of writing something like this:

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    Seriously, while it's possible we could do this, why would we? Do we want four first round picks on our team as currently constituted? Where are we going to put them? Those are some highly paid benchwarmers/situational players. We need some DB help, but it's a really weak DB draft year.

    If we have the #2 pick, I'd be cool with drafting Jake Long, even trading up to #1 if necessary. I'd rather have one overpaid guy who improves the team than four overpaid guys who really don't. I'd be okay in trading back once, and taking the compensation in 2009 draft picks.

    Any draft picks we get via trade should be pushed into future years.
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    I hope they trade back a little because a top 3 pick would warrant an investment similar to the one they put into Brady.

    I just don't see how NE can put $25mm guaranteed into a guy who has never played a down in the NFL.
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