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Candidates' Nafta stance stirs Canada

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  1. weswelker#83

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    You mean talk is really cheap? No way! Like most people know, saying something, and actually doing something, are two entirely different animals.
     
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    not sure if I'm reading this right

    are they suggesting the US produced 18 mill barrels on it's own a day? I would figure Saudi Arabia would be the biggest foreign oil supplier
     
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    the US uses somewhere near 20 million barrels per day, yes. Far more than any other country in the world. Consider that fact, and then understand that we house 300 million people, while India & China are home to a couple of billion. when you do that, and see the indistrial advancement of those two countries, and that particular part of the world, you can see why oil is so valued, and expensive. Just imagine if those billion person countries ever used oil at the level we do.
     
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    I absolutely agree with al of what you said and the projections are scary.

    What I was contending was how they could say Canada was america's biggest supplies at 1.8 million. that is nothing compared to what saudi arabia supplies.
     
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    1.8 million per day, not year.

    I was surprised that Canada and Mexico combined supply us with more oil than the entire ME according to this
     
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    yes I know 1.8 a day. read above. the US uses 20 million a day. think we're addicted to oil? people need to stop taking long drives just for enjoyment and need to stop wasting.
     
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    interesting article... the pie chart is a little challenging to decipher. I'm afraid to say I don't think oil consumption will decrease for two reasons:

    1. 42 cents per gallon is tax and goes to the gov't

    2. People won't conserve until the price hits them hard per gallon
     
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    Stupid skank Clinton thinks the US is the only American country....

    From the article:

    "We will opt out of Nafta unless we renegotiate it and we renegotiate on terms that are favourable to all of America," Mrs Clinton said

    Just get it over with and ratify the new Constitution of the Union of North America.... I'm getting tired of waiting. The borders between Texas and Mexico will be the same as the border between Texas and New Mexico. New Brunswick and New Hampshire will be the same as New York and New Jersey....So what? What's the difference?
     
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    No sir , I watched a tv show about cars , they showed the new Audi turbo Diesel called TDI , they tested the car , guess what ?
    800 miles on ONE tank of gas

    Video:
    http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/23/audi-a8-40-v8-tdi-excellent-fuel-economy/

    PS: This is the ideal car that we need to save energy and money.
     
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    And as soon as the American buying public wants this car, it will be mass produced and everyone will be driving one.

    In the meantime, I appreciate you minding your own business and letting the rest of us drive whatever we would like to. Thanks in advance.
     
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    Mind my own business? ...lol
    You want me to be quiet about showing a new technology and its terrific efficiency ?

    You are free to buy whatever you want buddy, all i am saying , soon we will have more efficient cars in the future for the people/small business who can't spend much money on gas,and it 's called twin turbo diesel , and the company FORD is working on building the same engine too.
     
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    No no, you misunderstand me, my ignorant friend. You can talk all you want about new technologies and things of the sort. I am just saying I want the government to mind it's own business. Knowing you as we do, it would certainly surprise no one if you wanted to mandate such a fuel standard for all consumers. Aren't you one of those who supports the 35 MPG mandatory standard by 2020 (or something like that)...?
    For now that's the case and, God willing, it will stay that way. But you're not fooling anyone in here... no one believe that if you had your way, consumers would remain from to buy whatever they want.
     
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    Go to sleep . :D

    Waaaaaambulance
     
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    Boy you sure showed me :rolleyes: Which is it Wes... do you support mandatory fuel standards by a certain date, or do you think people should be free to buy whatever vehicle they so desire..?

    Don't be a little p*ssy and avoid the question... it's a very simple one to answer...
     
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    I wont waste my time with you , this is not the first time that you act like a cry baby. I ve been reading and watching you for a while. Many members complained about your behavior. :rolleyes:
     
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    Oil is one of the most abundant resources in the world.

    I'm around oil people alot.

    This false scarcity mindset is whacked.

    They just want to jack up the price of oil, and put you on a control grid.

    They have plans to switch every road into a toll road.

    That will qwell the driving a bit!
     
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    Just like I thought... too much of a p*ssy to answer a single question... hey I saw this cartoon on some website and for some reason it sure made me think of you, Wes...

    [​IMG]
     
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    And if you think that this will ever be mass produced... you are beyond daft.

    Just remember what they did to Tesla... just remember what they did to Rife... I rest my case.
     
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    I think you mixing 2 issues here:

    1- I agree that People should be free to buy whatever they want.

    2- I agree with the GVT who asks american automakers to build efficient cars/engines for people who can NOT afford to pay 4$/gallon.

    I said that since my first post , wich part you didn't understand?
     
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