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Calvin Johnson runs a 4.33 in 40 yard dash!

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    We'd have to trade our entire draft to get high up enough to pick him. No one is worth that, especially a wide receiver.
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    He'll be good, but I think he is more fast than he is quick/agile, and remember there are always 1 or 2 receivers who get hyped up big time with little payoff. Remember Braylon Edwards? Yeah that worked out well for the Browns. How about all those Lions receivers?
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    Edwards played well his rookie year after dealing with injuries. This year he had 61 catches for 884 yards and 6 TD's. Thats with a bunch of scrubs throwing him the football.

    The Lions... Charie Rogers was a bust. Its too early to tell on Mike Williams but if he can get rid of the injury bug, he should be a beast. All the physical tools. I dont think I have to explain how talented Roy Williams is.
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    Mike Williams doesnt have an injury problem..hes fast and overweight and lazy


    Edwards put up good stats but he dropped a ton of balls
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    Could have sworn Williams had injury problems. Thanks for the correction.
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    He was get sitting on the bench while Josh McCown (QB) was getting catches in the passing game. That's how far down on the depth chart he is, in Detriot of all places.
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    Charles Rogers was a better prospect coming out of college than Braylon Edwards. Rogers times were a lot faster at 4.3 and Edwards at 4.4-4.5 range. Mike Williams was not hyped up. He was in the news so much because he was constantly being critized on his slow 40 times, some have clocked in at 4.7 range. Mike Williams was good in college, not good in the pros. As soon as his rookie contract is up, I doubt any team will sign him. I hope he saves his money or invests it in Real Estate. With his work ethic, he will not be in the NFL long.
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    Of course, no one is worth an entire draft. Unless, it's for L.T., Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.
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    Mike Williams hurt himself missing an entire year of football. Missing an entire year that you can simulate with training and a poor work ethic caused him to get fat and slow.

    They should put him at tightend(non-blocking of course). Put him in the slot full time.
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    The difference between Johnson and Rogers/Williams is attitude. Johnson is a role model while the other two are just in it for the money.

    Based on the Draft Value chart we could move up to #8 with our first rounders and #5 with the first 3 picks. There is a chance he would be at the #5 slot, but he's probably not worth 3 picks. If he falls to #8 you have to at least consider pulling the trigger!
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    The point is, a high pick on a receiver doesn't translate into wins.
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    Depends on the receiver. They are few and far between.

    But, this wide receiver is definitely the best I've ever seen in 30 years of watching college football. I've never seen anyone better. He plays hard, has incredible hands, can leap high, he's fast, run tight routes, has a real feel for where to be on the field, and he's high character.

    The only thing that held him back last year, if you can call it that, was one of the worst QBs in college ball.
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    You can pretty much copy and paste this scouting report for 1 receiver every year in the NFL draft.
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    When Matt Jones WR Arkansas was drafted in the 1st round by Jacksonville he was coming off a combine where he ran a 4.37 at 6-6 238.

    CJ is good, maybe great, but not worth trading our draft for.

    I'd rather have our much needed influx at DB and LB than trade up for CJ.
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    Believe me, this guy's bust potential is so low it's not funny. If we got him, I don't even know what I'd do. He is head and shoulders the best prospect in this draft class. A Larry Fitzgerald with more speed.
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    I would be very surprised to hear that the Pats traded many picks for the chance...
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    he may not be worth our whole draft, but he has the potential to be a roy williams, larry fitzgerald, chad johnson type player....to me thats worth a hell of alot for a team like ours that dosnt have too many holes. 2 first round picks this year and maybe a second rounder for a weapon like that for the next 5-6+ years, plus add in chad jackson on the other side, sounds like the super bowl shuffle 2 or 3 more times.
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    fasssssssssst.... too bad we cant sniff him
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    heard he's a punk looking for a big signing bonus.... stay away BB... stay far away... take our picks at our slots... let someone else bust on the next moss
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    AH-FREAKIN-MEN!

    LISTEN UP PEOPLE!

    WR's coming out of college are far far too much of an unkown quantity. This position, more than any other, is a crapshoot at the draft. That doesn't mean that every high pick will bust. Its just that the risk is higher at that position than any other coming out.

    If he falls, think about it at #24, and then its still a high risk pick. Never. Never. NEVER! trade out the top of your draft for a WR. QB maybe. DL maybe. RB maybe. Even LB maybe. but not a WR! EVER!
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    This just shows me you don't know what you're talking about on the issue. Johnson is in now way a "punk". He is a standup individual who values his education and was seriously contemplating staying at GT another year. He has never said something wrong or done something considered arrogant or classless. He would be a perfect Patriot.
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    well there is no need to worry about this guy or assume anything.

    If he falls down to 5 or lower and we trade up to get him he is definitely worth it. The pats draft as good as any other team and if they traded their first 3 picks up to get him you better believe he's good enough and a great fit.

    And if he fell that low and we didn't trade up for him, then there is your answer. He's not worth it to this team.

    Now if he goes in the 1st 4 i don't see how we move up to get him.

    Sincerely Yours,
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    No, the speed and height combination are very rare, the great character is even more rare. Randy moss is the only one that has this kind of speed and height, but this kid runs routes too. Imagine Moss with Troy Brown's heart. You want him on your team?
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    You heard wrong. He's the furthest thing from a punk. He may be looking for a big bonus. which in any case is irrelevant because he's slotted into that bonus in the draft.
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    This is all a moot point. The fact is that this kid is likely to be a top 3 pick or definitely a top 5 pick and out of our range. Put him out of your mind, unless the topic is fantasy football.
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    upstater, pushing aside the issues about how drafting receivers is a crapshoot in the first place, even if this guy is the next Larry Fitzgerald, high picks on receivers don't translate into wins. Fitzgerald is putting up big numbers and his team still sucks. Sexy wide receiver numbers do not translate into W's.
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    Exactly. WR's are not team changing players that can make a bad team good. They are role players who can good teams better.
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    Calvin Johnson will be a HUGE star, and you can take that to the bank. 4.33 in the 40, GREAT not good, great hands and work ethic, no character questions. Also a very good route runner, and a great jumper. Nobody in the NFL has all of those mentioned above, some may be faster, but with bad hands, or bad route runners, or bad character. Calvin Johnson will be a star, and if he's not within 2 years, I will print this and eat the paper it's written on.

    I would trade Chad Jackson and several picks to get Calvin Johnson. It ain't gonna happen, but if we got him, our offense would be unstopable.
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    4.33? That's almost as high as Bethel Johnson's best.

    Chad Jackson's run faster, too.
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