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    Okay ... who is moving to California ...

    California Governor Signs Marijuana Decriminalization Bill | StoptheDrugWar.org

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    Good job Arnold!


    However....


    Prop 19 is on the Ballot in November here.


    Come November....it can be legal out here. The polls are favoring it being legal by about 5-9%. Nate Silver (fivethirtyeight.com) has an interseting take on the polling and what he calls

    "The Brodus Effect"

    http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/marijuana/pot-legalization-prop-19-polls/

    "The Bradley effect was the notion -- broadly speaking -- that people lie to pollsters and say what they think they want to hear. It refers to Tom Bradley losing the 1982 California governor's race even though he was leading in late polls. The idea is that white voters, out of some vague racial guilt, told pollsters they were voting for Bradley but didn't once in the safe confines of the voting booth.

    Silver: Nevertheless, it's possible that we're seeing some sort of Bradley effect in reverse, which I've reluctantly dubbed the "Broadus Effect" after the given name of the rapper Snoop Dogg, himself a frequent consumer of cannabinoid-rich products.

    So the idea here is that once voters are in the cozy confines of the ballot box and can register their choice in secret, they may feel free to say yea on Prop 19.

    And with that, we have delightful new lingo for the Prop 19 battle: The Broadus Effect."
     
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    Been there, done that.
     
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    to be honest I never understood how people smoked and went about their lives.

    When I smoked I was virtually useless ... hibernation mode.

    Tried it some for a few years and gave up ... being a zombie was not for me.
     
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    The pot today, is significantly different from yesterday's. When I partook in my younger days, I could count on a nap shortly thereafter. Today, (I don't smoke too often) it has an effect like speed. Someone gave me a taste of the Ca. medical stuff sold in stores, and it was probably as powerful as anything I've ever had (which is a little disturbing, to be honest).
    Read an article on who's for and against legalization, and the players are almost reversed of what you'd think.
     
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    I'm surprised it's not legal country wide yet. It's way past time. People need to be responsible for themselves, not depend on the government to tell them what's good and bad. The war on drugs has cost us how much? We empower the Mexican mob by keeping it illegal.

    I do have a question though, even if CA make it legal (prop 19), how does Federal law work vs State law. Even though it would be legal from state prosecution, it would not be safe from the feds.
     
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    This is an issue where the Feds should butt out, but will punish citizens of the state. If there is a court battle I will be rooting for the state.
     
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    Now this is a bill we can all agree on.
     
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    What...What bill dude?? Anybody seen my doritos????
     
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    Oh ... it's treated ... we used to call that 'Sarge'
     
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    No way. More like

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    Wassup, Bud?

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    No, I don't think so. There's so many people who are in that trade who have been genetically engineering the species, that they have changed some of the symptom or characteristics of the drug. I would be a little surprised, if a state sponsored shop was spiking their product. Like I mentioned, I'm really not into it anymore, but the substance has changed dramatically since the old days.
     
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    Me too, I have always been in favor of legal drugs, today you can walk into any schoolyard in America and buy any drug you want.

    Legalize it all, then watch crime drop, put the stinking drug dealers out of business.
     
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    The problem this bill will have, is the same problem the Massachusetts law has, and that's with enforcement. The law has no teeth, which means collecting the fines is a lost cause. Nevermind the fact that a $100 fine is too little (driving 70 mph on a highway costs you more), people just don't pay them, when they're given. Some towns have just given up on issuing citations all together. To me, it's a good law (I voted for Question 2), that needs some serious restructuring. The penalties need to be increased (smoking a cigg in a building costs you more), and the means of collection given more teeth. As in failure to pay results in arrest, and a mandatory $1,000 fine. Something along those lines. If we're not going to legalize it, regulate, and tax it, then we need to toughen up the collection process with respect to the fines. If not, people will simply blaze without recourse, and I'm not sure that was the intention of the law.
     
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    Why do we care if the fines have no teeth (assuming the premise is correct, which I'm not so sure of) when it's already saving taxpayers a lot more than the amount of the fines just by not arresting people.
     

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