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  1. NEPatriot

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    Calif upholds gay marriage ban

    Liberals can STOP teaching gay tolerant to 5 year old kids.

    No more gay marriage in CA:singing::singing::rocker::eat3::eat3:
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    #80 Jersey

    Iowa still leading the nation in gay marriage!


    the ruling is odd, because it recognizes past marriages as valid.....so?
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    Can't unrecognize something that was legally binding at the time...can't use today's laws to undo past events.

    They are legally recognized despite the ban because they were legally issued at the time. Every state could ban gay marriage tomorrow and all the marriages issued today, yesterday, and any time before when the marriages were legal would be recognized.
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    #80 Jersey

    Like Obama can't take away your gun, if you bought it legally?
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    Different animal altogether...
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    A court that finally respects the will of the people.
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    #80 Jersey

    of the Mormon people...
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    #80 Jersey

    not really.

    I'm just pointing out how rediculous all those hgwo think Obama will take away your gun are. Its the exact same argument. Maybe on a grander scale because of the constitution.
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    You left out the group that really defeated it as does all the liberal establishment that unspoken of group worked hand in hand with the Mormans but shhhhhh we dare not even think it, oh God.
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    Its odd, only in that is finally recognized the will of the people.

    From a personal standpoint, I think it's the right ruling insomuch as it does respect the will of the people. I think the Gay Marriage advocates best course of action (have always felt this way), is to drop the derisiveness and calling anybody that voted for this racists and homophobes and start a REAL open dialog and campaign to convince people why gay marriage is a reasonable proposition.

    I would bet at least 5-10% that voted on it, voted very superficially on it, without putting a ton of conviction. I bet by dropping the campaign of anger, and basing it more on the fairly reasonable arguments for it, enough of those Yay votes would peal off from that and vote the other way.

    So long as they continue this campaign of hate, they have little chance moving anyone away from the vote they cast.
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    of the voters. :rolleyes:
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    hehe.....no, he can't.......that would be unconstitutional
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    It will be interesting to see what US Supreme Court is going to say about validating past gay marriages in CA when CA SC upholds gay marriage ban now. It's going to be a very interesting topic.
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    No it is not. One is an outright ban, the other is a limitation.

    If they believe that he will ban ALL guns then they are fools. Even the most anti-gun President isn't going to risk having all anti-gun legislation overturned by the Supreme Court with a full ban...there may be crackdowns on the kinds of guns allowed but there will never be a full ban.
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    #80 Jersey

    Its an odd twist, in reality.

    A lot of those who voted in the election were duped by the language of the proposition. I myslef had to read it more than a few times to make sure I was voting the way I wanted. Its also odd that a court that upheld the state's recognition of this not long ago and forced the prop are also upholding the vote by californians.

    so....

    Its also funny to me NOW Cali isn't leading the country in liberal marriage views...


    IOWA is.


    I bet 5 years ago, none of us would've said that.
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    They will overturn any 9th district overturning of the law since it's not a federal problem...otherwise there isn't much they will do to overturn the state supreme court's decision since it upholds both parts of the whole argument.
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    When in doubt just blame the voters :rolleyes:
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    if Iowa votes on it, it will be banned
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    Same in Massachusetts. It's legal in both states only due to technicalities- no actually prohibition in the law in Massachusetts, it was legislative act banning it instead of Constitutional amendment banning it in Iowa...

    The general public haven't had their say, it would be banned in both had the voters in the state had their say.
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    In the next 20 years is will change pretty much across the country.. California is unique with their proposition system.. bet California will change in the next 10 years.. the folks that defeated this did their homework and were very well funded, the next time the other folks will take a page out of their playbook and capitalize on it.
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